trump 2016

MrFedEx

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You haven't been listening to him? He's proposed lots of spending programs and goodies liberals love. You haven't noticed conservatives bashing him for the last year and a half for not being at all conservative?

Please list them. Trump has reversed himself on nearly every he has ever said. The latest is the electoral college. He is a chameleon and liar. If his audience is green, he's green, if it's orange, he's orange. He stands for nothing and shouldn't be President.
 

wayfair

swollen member
Please list them. Trump has reversed himself on nearly every he has ever said. The latest is the electoral college. He is a chameleon and liar. If his audience is green, he's green, if it's orange, he's orange. He stands for nothing and shouldn't be President.

TOS texting you?
 

JL 0513

Well-Known Member
Please list them. Trump has reversed himself on nearly every he has ever said. The latest is the electoral college. He is a chameleon and liar. If his audience is green, he's green, if it's orange, he's orange. He stands for nothing and shouldn't be President.

It's hard to be a politician when you're not an ideologue. That's why people have a hard time understanding Trump. It is indeed true that when it comes to political ideologies, he isn't necessarily firm on anything as Obama is on the left or Ted Cruz on the right. To a lesser degree, the same is true with Hillary but for different reasons. Clinton changes to whatever the political winds happen to be blowing. Or says different things to different audiences, whatever works to her benefit. She really just doesn't personally care about much beyond what it means to her power. Some people just aren't built to think politically, and Trump is one. He simply looks at an issue and makes a judgement on the spot based on how he feels and what's going on in the world at that given time.
 

BrownArmy

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It's hard to be a politician when you're not an ideologue. That's why people have a hard time understanding Trump. It is indeed true that when it comes to political ideologies, he isn't necessarily firm on anything as Obama is on the left or Ted Cruz on the right. To a lesser degree, the same is true with Hillary but for different reasons. Clinton changes to whatever the political winds happen to be blowing. Or says different things to different audiences, whatever works to her benefit. She really just doesn't personally care about much beyond what it means to her power. Some people just aren't built to think politically, and Trump is one. He simply looks at an issue and makes a judgement on the spot based on how he feels and what's going on in the world at that given time.


Trump is like a Rorschach blot, everyone sees what they individually see.
 

rickyb

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I love how Trump apparently represents the FAR right in the eyes of libs, while Obama or Hillary is middle of the road centrist.

While conservatives see Trump as liberal on many issues. Everyone sees everything completely different based on where they stand.
democrats are right of centre, trump is far right in terms of his previous rhetoric towards mexicans and muslims and his talk of violence
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
It's hard to be a politician when you're not an ideologue. That's why people have a hard time understanding Trump. It is indeed true that when it comes to political ideologies, he isn't necessarily firm on anything as Obama is on the left or Ted Cruz on the right. To a lesser degree, the same is true with Hillary but for different reasons. Clinton changes to whatever the political winds happen to be blowing. Or says different things to different audiences, whatever works to her benefit. She really just doesn't personally care about much beyond what it means to her power. Some people just aren't built to think politically, and Trump is one. He simply looks at an issue and makes a judgement on the spot based on how he feels and what's going on in the world at that given time.
yea ive heard that clinton is very windy too.

so she serves corporate power most of the time and when theres some pressure on her she will serve the people.

thats doesnt go well for trump.
 

rickyb

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Bernie Sanders ‏@SenSanders
7h7 hours ago


Mr. Trump promised to #DrainTheSwamp, not fill it up. Now do it.

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I want trump to actually "drain the swamp" and not just say one thing and do another.
 
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BrownArmy

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Trump was genuinely surprised at the scope of Presidential duties and responsibilities, and for a man who has been flirting with running for years, and actively campaigning for 16 months, this is unconscionable.

He still wants to hold rallies (to stay in touch with the people), and wants to stay in NY on the weekends.

Wow.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Trump was genuinely surprised at the scope of Presidential duties and responsibilities, and for a man who has been flirting with running for years, and actively campaigning for 16 months, this is unconscionable.

He still wants to hold rallies (to stay in touch with the people), and wants to stay in NY on the weekends.

Wow.

Yep. William friend. Buckley predicted the rise of a demagogue like Trump, whom he basically described as a narcissist fool.

Pence is emerging as the real power. I'm not comfortable with him, but at least he is rational. It says a lot that I respect someone who probably believes the Earth is 6,000 years old more than Frump.
 
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