Ukraine Conducts "Military Exercise" in Russia

newolddude

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The fact you think ukraine is winning this is funny. They are getting destroyed. The government of Ukraine needs to disappear. I fell bad for most of the citizens of Ukraine. Did you know that the Ukrainian military is walking around the cities and arresting/ taking any male older the 15? Did you know that they are now doing the same thing with the women?
Yepp looks like they are winning.

Why does the government of the Ukrainian need to disappear?
 

Box Ox

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Why does the government of the Ukrainian need to disappear?

Pamela Cooper-White: Why some Christian nationalists have loved Vladimir Putin – Chicago Tribune

March 25, 2022

"As President Vladimir Putin intensifies his assault on Ukraine — killing hundreds of innocent civilians and forcing more than 3 million refugees to abandon their homes — leading members of the Democratic and Republican parties in the U.S. are lining up to condemn the Russian strongman and demand hard-hitting sanctions.

But as Putin grows more and more isolated on the world stage, he’s retaining one surprising base of support: far-right American Christians.

As Delaware Republican Lauren Witzke, a U.S. Senate candidate, recently said at the Conservative Political Action Conference: “Russia is a Christian nationalist nation. … I identify more with Russians,’ with Putin’s Christian values than I do with Joe Biden’s.” Days later at the America First Political Action Conference, white nationalist Nick Fuentes called for a round of applause for Putin — and got one.

These extreme views don’t exist in a vacuum. They are indicative of the swath of Americans who identify as Christian nationalists — many of whom have quietly held their pro-Putin views for decades. They admire Putin because they see him as promoting their own conservative views on cultural issues, like attacking LGBTQ+ rights. More insidiously, they also admire Putin because they see him as a macho white Christian man who is willing to use deadly force against his enemies — something, alarmingly, that they’d like to see in the United States as well."
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Pamela Cooper-White: Why some Christian nationalists have loved Vladimir Putin – Chicago Tribune

March 25, 2022

"As President Vladimir Putin intensifies his assault on Ukraine — killing hundreds of innocent civilians and forcing more than 3 million refugees to abandon their homes — leading members of the Democratic and Republican parties in the U.S. are lining up to condemn the Russian strongman and demand hard-hitting sanctions.

But as Putin grows more and more isolated on the world stage, he’s retaining one surprising base of support: far-right American Christians.

As Delaware Republican Lauren Witzke, a U.S. Senate candidate, recently said at the Conservative Political Action Conference: “Russia is a Christian nationalist nation. … I identify more with Russians,’ with Putin’s Christian values than I do with Joe Biden’s.” Days later at the America First Political Action Conference, white nationalist Nick Fuentes called for a round of applause for Putin — and got one.

These extreme views don’t exist in a vacuum. They are indicative of the swath of Americans who identify as Christian nationalists — many of whom have quietly held their pro-Putin views for decades. They admire Putin because they see him as promoting their own conservative views on cultural issues, like attacking LGBTQ+ rights. More insidiously, they also admire Putin because they see him as a macho white Christian man who is willing to use deadly force against his enemies — something, alarmingly, that they’d like to see in the United States as well."
Kind of a stretch to link Putin to LGBTQ rights. I kind of doubt that has anything to do with the Ukraine.
 

Box Ox

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Kind of a stretch to link Putin to LGBTQ rights. I kind of doubt that has anything to do with the Ukraine.

Sure it does. LGBTQ Zelensky/Ukraine memes are posted in Current Events pretty regularly. @TheDudeAbides92 is telling me to "suck your boy zelenskys dong" in the revolution/civil war thread right now. Think I hit a nerve with that article.


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TheDudeAbides92

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Please continue. It helps us understand why some on the right are so strongly against helping Ukraine defend itself.
It’s not any of our business for one thing and for another they’re a corrupt globalist nation that doesn’t deserve any help if we had the ability to help which we don’t. Our country is drowning here at home financially morally and otherwise
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Please continue. It helps us understand why some on the right are so strongly against helping Ukraine defend itself.
Not really. Just the ravings of a leftist wackjob. Conservatives aren't against the Ukraine defending itself but the massive corruption and money laundering going on there. Its more an objection to throwing money away when neither side could be called the good guys.
 

TheDudeAbides92

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What about our border that has been overrun and unprotected for over 30 years ? That matter to anyone ? Anyone wanna allocate some military resources for that ?
 

newolddude

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So you’re another lefty who thinks because one side does it, the supposed “bad guys” that makes it OK for your side? I thought we were on the side of right? It’s just fine to you that political opposition is stifled and and the news media is taken over by the state, and people are forced conscription to fight in a supposedly democratic free country? Thank you for letting us see your true colors. It’s a common problem. People become that that they hate very quickly when they justify things like this.

I just don’t get the Republican love of Russia and Putin.
 

vantexan

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Not really. Just the ravings of a leftist wackjob. Conservatives aren't against the Ukraine defending itself but the massive corruption and money laundering going on there. Its more an objection to throwing money away when neither side could be called the good guys.
I wonder how many of our politicians are getting kickbacks from all those unaccounted for billions we've sent so far? Some of them seem awfully passionate about defending Ukraine.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
I wonder how many of our politicians are getting kickbacks from all those unaccounted for billions we've sent so far? Some of them seem awfully passionate about defending Ukraine.
Passionate about throwing money around with little accountability. A lot of which seems to vanish into thin air.
 
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