UPS as a guide to life

[haller]

I missed all the fun.

 

[rod]

Hasn't been around since @scratch handed him his butt on a plate yesterday.

Damn--I'm sorry I missed it. I've always enjoyed a good Upstate thrashing.

 

[Integrity]

Do you want to hear about the sup who had one of his legs ripped off , almost lost the other one , too.
Blood was everywhere.
We never heard his screams , but knew something was wrong when his glasses came up the belt followed by parcels covered in blood.

True story .

Wow!

Where did this happen?

When?

Someone here once just missed having leg ripped off.

 

[Integrity]

I worked at UPS from October 1992 until July 1995. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. I was promoted to PT supervisor in July 1993. The center manager was Mark N. I initially hated him; he rode me like a beast of burden. However, the greatest moment at UPS was in 1994 when he actually told me I was doing a good job. I recall being late for a management meeting soon after being promoted, and Mr. N, who was giving the meeting,glared at me the entire meeting. Immediately when the meeting ended he requested I meet him in his office in the next room. He screamed at me and broke several cabinet doors in his office. I thought he was going to hit me. I was very afraid. I was never late after that. That lesson carried over after I left UPS.

The point of this is that I was an undisciplined ass when I went to work at UPS. Mr. N was a life changer. If not for him I would not have been able to go to law school and be a practicing attorney today. If you want to succeed in life, stick with it. I see a lot of stories on here with few specifics. That weakens the credibility of the so-called "horror stories." Suck it up; if your sup disciplines you, probably you deserve it. If you don't, prove it.

Case-in-point: I had a guy who would not comply with the requests to perform work. He was brought to my area for OJS and for me to turn him. He acted admirably in the face of the challenges I tossed at him, e.g. I threw him in a two-person load and told the other employees not to give him help. After seeing his spirit, I helped personally. My job was to turn him, so there was nothing I could do to keep him. He told me repeatedly that[to get rid of him] was,"all me." When I asked what that meant, he offered a satisfactory explanation. He put in his two weeks. He worked those weeks. I worked him. He quit. To this day, I would support his request for any job or anything else. I respected his character. He proved himself.

As for the rest of you, what do you have to say?

You have provided 2 examples of what I assume you are using as guides to life.

The first example is generally a poor example of how anyone should conduct themselves when dealing with a professional situation, but there is more serious issue here when addressing this situation specifically.

The fact that your claims as to who, what, where this conduct occurred exposes serious infractions to "Our People" portions of the Policy and the Code of Business Conduct.

This management person should not have been praised for this conduct but reported, reported so that progressive discipline could be initiated in hope of the needed change of behavior by the management person or the termination of him if he refuses to change.

The second example of being given the goal of getting rid of someone well again, serious violations occurred and a similar path to the one described above should have been taken.

 

[jaker]

You have provided 2 examples of what I assume you are using as guides to life.

The first example is generally a poor example of how anyone should conduct themselves when dealing with a professional situation, but there is more serious issue here when addressing this situation specifically.

The fact that your claims as to who, what, where this conduct occurred exposes serious infractions to "Our People" portions of the Policy and the Code of Business Conduct.

This management person should not have been praised for this conduct but reported, reported so that progressive discipline could be initiated in hope of the needed change of behavior by the management person or the termination of him if he refuses to change.

The second example of being given the goal of getting rid of someone well again, serious violations occurred and a similar path to the one described above should have been taken.

Man I hate when I to have to agree with him

 

[Brisket]

As I suspected. No person may impugn Mr. N's character.
What he did was for all of us.

 

[xAvenger]

That is bull. I was trained and taught to put my employees'safety first. Period. And I did. If there was any question, I would handle it myself. I still have some scars.

I was also, plus that was my nature. Employee safety was the key to success, always. I cared about my people first. Always. N always reinforced that. I am not sure why this website obscures the name of this hero.

 

[xAvenger]

What exactly is it your looking for Chief

I am looking for recognition for him, and for similar experiences, which led to the same or similar result. Nobody can challenge me on the effect Mark N had on my life; but I welcome the challenge.

 

[burrheadd]

I was also, plus that was my nature. Employee safety was the key to success, always. I cared about my people first. Always. N always reinforced that. I am not sure why this website obscures the name of this hero.

You do realize your "quoting" yourself

Don't you?

 

[xAvenger]

Nelson as in former UPS CEO Kent N from 1989 to 1996.

No. Mark N, Center Manager while I was employed, June 14, 1993 until I left for school, June 16, 1995. I am announcing that he made a difference in my life, and provided me the discipline to proceed. I am not sure why people here need to provide irrelevant details or other "comments," e.g. 'cite? Or it did not happen.' It happened. I tell you, Mark N was a glorious manager who allowed me to understand consequence. Who here can defy my high characterization of Mr. N, and who can say he did not have a positive influence on their life? I do not think anyone can do so. Prove me wrong. Please. No superficial comments, please.

 

[xAvenger]

You do realize your "quoting" yourself

Don't you?

Yep, I have had no answer.

 

[Turdferguson]

I am looking for recognition for him, and for similar experiences, which led to the same or similar result. Nobody can challenge me on the effect Mark N had on my life; but I welcome the challenge.

Obviously he didn't teach you that when a site rules ask that you not publish full names on its site, that those rules apply to you also.
So he was a failure as a mentor

 

[burrheadd]

No. Mark N, Center Manager while I was employed, June 14, 1993 until I left for school, June 16, 1995. I am announcing that he made a difference in my life, and provided me the discipline to proceed. I am not sure why people here need to provide irrelevant details or other "comments," e.g. 'cite? Or it did not happen.' It happened. I tell you, Mark N was a glorious manager who allowed me to understand consequence. Who here can defy my high characterization of Mr. N, and who can say he did not have a positive influence on their life? I do not think anyone can do so. Prove me wrong. Please. No superficial comments, please.

Lemme help you out here

Nobody Cares!!!

 

[Operational needs]

No. Mark N, Center Manager while I was employed, June 14, 1993 until I left for school, June 16, 1995. I am announcing that he made a difference in my life, and provided me the discipline to proceed. I am not sure why people here need to provide irrelevant details or other "comments," e.g. 'cite? Or it did not happen.' It happened. I tell you, Mark N was a glorious manager who allowed me to understand consequence. Who here can defy my high characterization of Mr. N, and who can say he did not have a positive influence on their life? I do not think anyone can do so. Prove me wrong. Please. No superficial comments, please.

Are you high??

 

[MyTripisCut]

No. Mark N, Center Manager while I was employed, June 14, 1993 until I left for school, June 16, 1995. I am announcing that he made a difference in my life, and provided me the discipline to proceed. I am not sure why people here need to provide irrelevant details or other "comments," e.g. 'cite? Or it did not happen.' It happened. I tell you, Mark N was a glorious manager who allowed me to understand consequence. Who here can defy my high characterization of Mr. N, and who can say he did not have a positive influence on their life? I do not think anyone can do so. Prove me wrong. Please. No superficial comments, please.

 

[Jkloc420]

what was his name again

 

[Turdferguson]

I am looking for recognition for him, and for similar experiences, which led to the same or similar result. Nobody can challenge me on the effect Mark N had on my life; but I welcome the challenge.

 

[xAvenger]

Obviously he didn't teach you that when a site rules ask that you not publish full names on its site, that those rules apply to you also.
So he was a failure as a mentor

No, he did not. Websites barely existed. How do you think it is wrong to glorify someone who made a difference in yyour life, as Mr. 'N' did -- Mr. N. Point out the particular provision of the 'Rules.' I thought this site was purposed to freely express experiences from UPS employment. I also thought this site was about speaking freely about "employee" experiences. I did. Now I suffer this hate and criticism? Why? And not on the merits of my expressed facts. Express some facts contrary to mine, please.

 

[Jkloc420]

No, he did not. Websites barely existed. How do you think it is wrong to glorify someone who made a difference in yyour life, as Mr. 'N' did -- Mr. N. Point out the particular provision of the 'Rules.' I thought this site was purposed to freely express experiences from UPS employment. I also thought this site was about speaking freely about "employee" experiences. I did. Now I suffer this hate and criticism? Why? And not on the merits of my expressed facts. Express some facts contrary to mine, please.

what was his name

 

[Turdferguson]

No. Mark N, Center Manager while I was employed, June 14, 1993 until I left for school, June 16, 1995. I am announcing that he made a difference in my life, and provided me the discipline to proceed. I am not sure why people here need to provide irrelevant details or other "comments," e.g. 'cite? Or it did not happen.' It happened. I tell you, Mark N was a glorious manager who allowed me to understand consequence. Who here can defy my high characterization of Mr. N, and who can say he did not have a positive influence on their life? I do not think anyone can do so. Prove me wrong. Please. No superficial comments, please.