UPS LATEST PROPOSAL

[Ptrunner]

I don’t get the math on this. I’m at 23 years part-time and am slightly over $30/hr. How is a part-timer with the company 1 year less only making under $22 an hour? They should still be making over $29, unless there’s a huge disparity per rider. I’m in central states.

But yes, the $20 base +0.75 makes a lot of sense without giving part-timers too much. It rewards seniority, which it should.

I’m 28.59

I don’t get the math on this. I’m at 23 years part-time and am slightly over $30/hr. How is a part-timer with the company 1 year less only making under $22 an hour? They should still be making over $29, unless there’s a huge disparity per rider. I’m in central states.

But yes, the $20 base +0.75 makes a lot of sense without giving part-timers too much. It rewards seniority, which it should.

im 28.59 for me. But also remember the new hire is getting 22 and a 200 dollar attendance bonus so the MRA rate and the attendance bonus

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That's where I believe we in mgmt have done a poor job of communication. Good labor relations starts with the interactions you have every day.

I don't need a participation trophy.
If something needs fixed just come out to my face and say this needs to be tightened up.
On the other hand this every once in awhile if I go out of my way to save your ass just a little simple thank you would be nice that's all


You really hear anything hear anything positive.


I guess it really doesn't matter I'm close to him that much later if his company wants to succeed they need to find a different angle besides management by fear.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

I don't need a participation trophy.
If something needs fixed just come out to my face and say this needs to be tightened up.
On the other hand this every once in awhile if I go out of my way to save your ass just a little simple thank you would be nice that's all


You really hear anything hear anything positive.


I guess it really doesn't matter I'm close to him that much later if his company wants to succeed they need to find a different angle besides management by fear.

The problem is how much money they're making while they're managing this way. They feel that it's working, and working well.

It's a broad brush to paint with, and I know not all function this way, but I've overheard the conference calls, and their managers "lead" the same way. It's a joke.

 

[HarryWarden]

Company needs to find the right balance of taking care of their employees and not getting themselves into too much debt.

This my personal opinion the company is focused on the short-term Outlook unlike the original founders of this company that looked decades down the road.

Yup quarterly profits, that’s it. Sometimes you have to take some short term losses for long term gains, but shareholders don’t care about that. They just want the quarterly profits

 

[UnionStrong]

Pretty sure @UnionStrong has overused the outta that in every thread.

Not really, my desert rat buddy.

 

[clean hairy]

He has been all over media the last few days… haven’t seen Carol one time.

She is either trying to get up to loading more than 5 boxes per hour, or she is trying to learn the 5s and 10s to go driving.

 

[dudebro]

The problem is how much money they're making while they're managing this way. They feel that it's working, and working well.

It's a broad brush to paint with, and I know not all function this way, but I've overheard the conference calls, and their managers "lead" the same way. It's a joke.

When I started, I learned the hyper aggressive stuff first too. Be feared not loved. But I noticed that people became tone deaf to the maniacs, and maniacs were hated. I learned to adjust my approach to more of "take care of people who take care of you" and things go much better.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

When I started, I learned the hyper aggressive stuff first too. Be feared not loved. But I noticed that people became tone deaf to the maniacs, and maniacs were hated. I learned to adjust my approach to more of "take care of people who take care of you" and things go much better.

Good for you, man, wish more understood this. A good leader serves his followers.

 

[Generic UPS Monkey]

And how many of them leave before the three and a half hour guarantee?

I work 30 hours a week PT. Always 6th punch and bid on every FT sheet. Do extra shifts in the evening when offered too and driver helper every peak.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I work 30 hours a week PT. Always 6th punch and bid on every FT sheet. Do extra shifts in the evening when offered too and driver helper every peak.

You are the rare exception congratulations for trying to get ahead

 

[PT Car Washer]

I work 30 hours a week PT. Always 6th punch and bid on every FT sheet. Do extra shifts in the evening when offered too and driver helper every peak.

I normally work at least 40+ hours a week and that is down from 50 hours. 6 days a week .FT delivery drivers don't want to work there are others who will take the money.

 

[DELACROIX]

A lot of sympathy from management. Not a very strong class conflict vibe in our building!

I don't need a participation trophy.
If something needs fixed just come out to my face and say this needs to be tightened up.
On the other hand this every once in awhile if I go out of my way to save your ass just a little simple thank you would be nice that's all


You really hear anything hear anything positive.


I guess it really doesn't matter I'm close to him that much later if his company wants to succeed they need to find a different angle besides management by fear.

The problem is how much money they're making while they're managing this way. They feel that it's working, and working well.

It's a broad brush to paint with, and I know not all function this way, but I've overheard the conference calls, and their managers "lead" the same way. It's a joke.

I got the general feeling that this is a done deal.

Settled soon… The feds have laid down the law, this labor agreement has been on their radar for years, both political parties are in agreement, that is why you are hearing no support for the Company from either side. The acting labor secretary non verbals about mediation is a dead give away. No indication of a major drop of UPS stock in the markets would be another indicator.

UPS is just trying to save a nickel or two, they already settled the non-economic issues and all the supplements and riders already.

When this Contract is settled UPS will have a good excuse for further restructuring of their management, raise their shipping costs and get back to enjoying their profit sharing and keeping their shareholders happy.

There is a reason that we only had two nationwide strikes in our history.

If this coming tentative gets passed and the rest of the targeted unorganized workers see our massive improvements. Their overlords will have to pay up or face more political and economical pressures for collective bargaining. In the long run if UPS gets generous with this one it will help them complete and provide a more level playing field.

 

[9.5mania]

I got the general feeling that this is a done

So do I, I was reading an article that said after 97 strike, UPS was able to recover 90% of its volume. This time, they would only recover 70%. Even if those numbers are off, it’s still a lot of lost revenue.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

So do I, I was reading an article that said after 97 strike, UPS was able to recover 90% of its volume. This time, they would only recover 70%. Even if those numbers are off, it’s still a lot of lost revenue.

Plus they were probably have to give them a better rate to win their business back.

 

[Jkloc420]

So do I, I was reading an article that said after 97 strike, UPS was able to recover 90% of its volume. This time, they would only recover 70%. Even if those numbers are off, it’s still a lot of lost revenue.

More competition now then 97

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

And how many of them leave before the three and a half hour guarantee?

I ing hate this with a passion. A lot think the guarantee works if they cut them. Lol. Then I tell them the only way they get paid out like that is if management cuts them and they refused them their guarantee.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I ing hate this with a passion. A lot think the guarantee works if they cut them. Lol. Then I tell them the only way they get paid out like that is if management cuts them and they refused them their guarantee.

I don't get it either.

We also have guys that code 05....

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

Perhaps maybe the company should pay part timers in turkeys per hour.

 

[Thebrownblob]

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Perhaps maybe the company should pay part timers in turkeys per hour.

Well seems they are flipping us the bird currently.

 

[Sacrificial Lamb]

Well seems they are flipping us the bird currently.

Rotisserie sounds nice.