1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
This is sort of what I expected to happen once an out and out Socialist/Communist got elected to the City Council.
ups Seattle employees will be getting a nice bump in pay..
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1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
On the bright side, the value of their alley real estate will be going up once the viaduct is completely down.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I believe there is still a distribution center there.
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
The point being that the local powers that be have already driven off Boeing.
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
There is a center in what would be considered Seattle as well as the operations at Boeing Field.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I thought the primary motive for the move was the whole union/non-union thing.
1BROWNWRENCH
Amatuer Malthusian
HQ moved, production remained.
1989
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One hub in seattle, about 1 mile north of BFI.
Coldworld
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Just curious if all you guys think that the federal minimum wage is fair considering it is 2014...I'm sorry it's a joke...so sick of hearing about if the wage is raised then it will be a job killer...look at how much other western countries pay for minimum wage, and there is mcdonalds, Walmart etc that do business there. The argument that only students work for low federal wages is over...not true anymore.
The price does get absorbed in other ways than job cuts. But the very first thing the shuttle services did was tack on a .50 wage adjustment to their services. But they take profit losses, management works more production, and they get real tight on inventory. The truth is yes, these companies can operate on a $15 an hour minimum wage. The large corporations just shrug their shoulders and tighten their belts. The small businesses can run too, but they have smaller margins and it's hard for them to expand. Doesn't mean much for someone looking for a job when companies can't expand enough to create new jobs. It's a catch 22.
Benben
Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
The average wage on the floor at Boeing is slightly over $30/hr. The new law means dick to them. The small buss. owners will now only make 1.5 mill instead of 2.3 a year....breaks my heart. Psst, a little inside info......payroll is a write off!!
- UPS can continue to hire at $10/hr. and say the bennies bump it over $15. But they will continue to get the worst of the worst for pre-loaders. The new hires we get now can't count to 11 if they dropped their drawers! Try to explain an 8000 shelf to them and you might as well be speaking Greek. If you pay the bare minimum for the most backbreaking work out there AND make them wait 1 year before they get bennies you will continue to get crap for job applicants and the turnover will continue to be insanely high. It is not 2009 anymore. Jobs are a dime a dozen. My boy picked a job at pizza joint the summer for $10 an hour just last week because the work was easy and the girls in the place were hot. His words!! He is 17!!!!
- I have had 4 new loaders in the last 30 days. Every day I spend countless mins. hunting for packages and countless hours every week running off misloads. My check soars as the miles and the time spent running across town to deliver a mis-loaded sure-post package bumps my bonus way up! MY god, 3 weeks ago I had a new loader being trained by a brand new, off the street belt Sup. TALK ABOUT STUPID!!
- UPS................You get what you pay for!!
There is a UPS operation at Boeing field. And there are around 75,000 boeing employees in the Seattle area.
Coldworld
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Understand what your saying..you have been a rock solid member on here forever but these companies are friend's greedy..period. For example during the recession they were getting tax breaks in exchange for hiring people and what did many of these companies do...kept the money..didn't hire. The largest companies were making record profit during these years..sitting on billions..it's pretty sad when the mom and pop businesses have to be the job creators in this country..should be the multi national conglomerates that have the ways and means to hire. Most of the spending is done by middle class folks and families...you raise the wages more money should be spent on goods and services thus going back into the economy thus help to create more jobs..I know it's not an exact science but trickle down economics doesn't work...The middle class has to be strong and the poor need higher wages..thus a higher minimum wage is the start to this...let's make more jobs and kick many of these lifers on welfare into the job market...
Coldworld
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Bingo..but look at how much management makes and some of them are not the smartest tools in the shed...
Coldworld
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Every time a state raises the minimum wage all the Republicans come out of the woodwork saying that if you raise it jobs will leave..it's a "job killer"..etc..etc(even in most cases it's only a quarter or 2) well guess what after it passes and the smoke clears there are still companies in the state...nobody goes out of business...same old song and dance
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The article I read this morning in my local paper did not say anything about benefits being added to the wage to make sure it meets the new minimum.
oldngray
nowhere special
I heard a rumor but unconfirmed story about companies being allowed to count benefits as wages. I wouldn't be surprised since it allows everyone else to sidestep that socialist city council member.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The article that I read made no reference whatsoever to benefits being part of the equation. It did say that companies with 500 or more employees nationally would be given 3 years to comply with the new law.
Yes I understand the political diatribe quite well. I'm neither Republican or Democrat.
Businesses that have many locations in a specific city, such as seattle, definitely will start to reconsider the cost and benefit of staying or leaving.
What I meant to say in my above post was businesses may leave, but that Does Not mean their will be job losses.
If any businesses do leave. New businesses will pop up and replace them. So job losses aren't going to occur.
I have a degree in economics and finance. My beliefs are not politically based.
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