Vaccine Mandates Coming For Employment

bdmiz

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Dude. You can believe whatever you want. God Bless America
You just can’t go around saying “there’s satan in the vaccine” without people thinking you’re fu***** crazy.
Seriously. Stop and think about it for a second.
I just have to sit back and laugh at this point.

I hate to tell you this guy but everyone thinks YOU'RE :censored2:ing crazy spouting all this pro vaccine garbage. You are in the minority, you are an idiot.
 

Non sequitur

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All this end times 666 4chan stuff is great and all, but what exactly is the union's position on this?

I asked my steward and he said "who knows." That's real inspiring.
The shop Stewart's politics May differ than his local. I once heard of a very good shop steward named Ken. The local asked him to stump for Obama and he declined. After that they referred to him as Republic Ken.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
That's a sticking point for me. It seems like the media likes to quietly push aside the notion of antibodies playing any sort of role at all.

Had a friend of mine say "well your antibodies wear off after a time." Of course they do. I'm not arguing about that. However, "The Science TM" has also stated that boosters may be needed for those who are vaccinated. So what's the difference?
The media? They’re liars
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
That's a sticking point for me. It seems like the media likes to quietly push aside the notion of antibodies playing any sort of role at all.

Had a friend of mine say "well your antibodies wear off after a time." Of course they do. I'm not arguing about that. However, "The Science TM" has also stated that boosters may be needed for those who are vaccinated. So what's the difference?

Antibodies are only one step in the process, which is why the vaccines are inferior. Once your immune system learns to create the antibodies that prevent the viruses from entering cells, the white blood cells carry on clearing out the virus from the body. Antibodies aren't detectable in the blood until after the infection because the body continues to produce them until after the virus is eliminated. Having the antibodies circulating prevent reinfection while you recover. Once the virus is no longer detected in the body, antibodies production tapers off, and they eventually break down. The memory immune cells retain the information to start producing antibodies again, if the virus shows back up, to prevent infection.

Producing antibodies just for the spike proteins does not create the same multifaceted immune response. The virus stays in the body longer, driving mutation. I have read that the shots can interfere with the natural response for those who previously recovered, and can prevent you from developing full spectrum immunity in the future. And apparently the memory cells don't retain the ability to produce the antibodies, otherwise boosters wouldn't be necessary.

Vaccinated people are just as much a risk to others as unvaccinated people with no established immunity. People who have recovered from covid have a higher degree of immunity to the original strain and minimally differentiated mutations, and a great head start on any highly differentiated mutations, and pose the least amount of risk to others.

The only path forward at this point is to stop with the freak-outs, and treat this like any other cold or flu bug.
 
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brownman2075

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Antibodies are only one step in the process, which is why the vaccines are inferior. Once your immune system learns to create the antibodies that prevent the viruses from entering cells, the white blood cells carry on clearing out the virus from the body. Antibodies aren't detectable in the blood until after the infection because the body continues to produce them until after the virus is eliminated. Having the antibodies circulating prevent reinfection while you recover. Once the virus is no longer detected in the body, antibodies production tapers off, and they eventually break down. The memory immune cells retain the information to start producing antibodies again, if the virus shows back up, to prevent infection.

Producing antibodies just for the spike proteins does not create the same multifaceted immune response. The virus stays in the body longer, driving mutation. I have read that the shots can interfere with the natural response for those who previously recovered, and can prevent you from developing full spectrum immunity in the future. And apparently the memory cells don't retain the ability to produce the antibodies, otherwise boosters wouldn't be necessary.

Vaccinated people are just as much a risk to others as unvaccinated people with no established immunity. People who have recovered from covid have a higher degree of immunity to the original strain and minimally differentiated mutations, and a great head start on any highly differentiated mutations, and pose the least amount of risk to others.

The only path forward at this point is to stop with the freak-outs, and treat this like any other cold or flu bug.
I’m proud of my natural immunity. Is it long lasting and broad? From the studies I’m reading, yes. Was it scary? Yes. It was. Are soldiers on the battlefield nervous about taking a bullet on the battlefield? Likely. When you come out on the other end alive, take a bullet, maybe two bullets in some cases before the war is over, you can be proud when you did not waiver your freedoms in the face of the enemy knowing you can still hand those freedoms over to future generations as they look up to you and admire your bravery in the face of adversity, not just in the face of a health crisis, but those socialist who would take advantage of us to bring about communism.
 

TheBrownNote

Good thing I wore my brown pants
Dude. You can believe whatever you want. God Bless America
You just can’t go around saying “there’s satan in the vaccine” without people thinking you’re fu***** crazy.
Seriously. Stop and think about it for a second.
This coming from the guy who openly mocks God and his Word (by your user name. )
Let he who hath eyes to see, see, and ears to hear, hear.
And dont worry about my feelings...
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Hopefully mine have a good memory lol

Well, people who recovered from Sars Cov 1 back in 2003 still showed an immune response last year when they studied them. It was estimated that 50-60% of the population had some level of crossimunity SC2 due to previous cold and flu infections. And, when you consider that herd immunity was expected to be reached at around 70%, and the fact that between 10 and 20% of the population have gotten it, that should put us well into endemic status, like Singapore and Alberta have declared. It's been pretty much over for a while. They are milking the nothing burger variants as hard as they can, but their narrative sand castle is being washed away by the incoming tide of undeniable reality.
 

newfie

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A lot more Trumpees would be receiving the Trump vaccine right now if he'd won the Presidential election and was encouraging them to receive his miracle shot.
about 30 percent of all blacks have gotten the vaccine. I dont believe many of them supported Trump
 

brownman2075

Well-Known Member
Well, people who recovered from Sars Cov 1 back in 2003 still showed an immune response last year when they studied them. It was estimated that 50-60% of the population had some level of crossimunity SC2 due to previous cold and flu infections. And, when you consider that herd immunity was expected to be reached at around 70%, and the fact that between 10 and 20% of the population have gotten it, that should put us well into endemic status, like Singapore and Alberta have declared. It's been pretty much over for a while. They are milking the nothing burger variants as hard as they can, but their narrative sand castle is being washed away by the incoming tide of undeniable reality.
We just need to start torching people.

 
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