Walmart anti-union video leaked

[FrigidFTSup]

If Walmart can't pay a living wage and still make a profit then maybe they shouldn't be in business at all.

I love this argument. So it's the responsibility of the company to make sure their employees earn a decent living? The employees are paid to provide a service and the market rate for that service is their wage. If they want more money find a job that requires skill.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I love this argument. So it's the responsibility of the company to make sure their employees earn a decent living? The employees are paid to provide a service and the market rate for that service is their wage. If they want more money find a job that requires skill.

The market rate doesn't mean a thing when you're talking about the nation's largest employer.
That's why they need a union.

 

[JL 0513]

If Walmart can't pay a living wage and still make a profit then maybe they shouldn't be in business at all.

What is a "living wage"? If you are a cashier at Walmart, you should be able to support a whole family?

Yeah, let's eliminate the world's largest employer. Sounds like a good idea that will help lots of people.

And lets make everything way more expensive. That will help all the poor people you claim to care for.

 

[JL 0513]

The market rate doesn't mean a thing when you're talking about the nation's largest employer.
That's why they need a union.

They are the world's largest employer but just a small fraction of the whole work force or even just in the world of retail. So there is a market rate. You are paid what s dictated by the market and agreed upon by both parties. Don't like it, you need not apply.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

They are the world's largest employer but just a small fraction of the whole work force or even just in the world of retail. So there is a market rate. You are paid what s dictated by the market and agreed upon by both parties. Don't like it, you need not apply.

It doesn't only affect the people who work and shop there. We all subsidize Walmart's profits.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

And lets make everything way more expensive. That will help all the poor people you claim to care for.

So just to be clear, you support Walmart's anti-union agenda because you don't want poor people to have to pay more for stuff?
I don't even know where to begin with that lol.

 

[trance]

If given the choice I would pick Target over Walmart.

Targets anti gun stance puts me out of their checkout lines

 

[trance]

You want to make more for doing low skilled entry level jobs? It shouldn't be the responsibility of the employer to ensure the employees are paid, that is the responsibility of the employee, don't like your pay rate? Increase your education, skills, or overall employability and seek better.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You want to make more for doing low skilled entry level jobs? It shouldn't be the responsibility of the employer to ensure the employees are paid, that is the responsibility of the employee, don't like your pay rate? Increase your education, skills, or overall employability and seek better.

Or unionize, seems to have worked out well for certain truck drivers.

 

[trance]

Or unionize, seems to have worked out well for certain truck drivers.

That depends on how you look at it, be a rockstar driver who runs scratch or under every day, that takes what he does seriously and then see the slackers who run over and need bailed out daily making the same rate.

 

[watdaflock?]

The market rate doesn't mean a thing when you're talking about the nation's largest employer.
That's why they need a union.

What does size have to do with fair market pay?

 

[FrigidFTSup]

The market rate doesn't mean a thing when you're talking about the nation's largest employer.
That's why they need a union.

Sure it does. They may be the countries biggest employer. But they are still a fraction of the national workforce.

We all subsidize Walmart's profits.

No you don't.

Targets anti gun stance puts me out of their checkout lines

God forbid there be a place you can't bring a gun...

Or unionize, seems to have worked out well for certain truck drivers.

Or you be an adult and find a job that requires skill and pays you for that skill.

 

[trance]

Sure it does. They may be the countries biggest employer. But they are still a fraction of the national workforce.

No you don't.

God forbid there be a place you can't bring a gun...

Or you be an adult and find a job that requires skill and pays you for that skill.

Look at each of the last mass shootings... All in places that forbid carrying firearms, definitely someone to that.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

This video is absolutely ridiculous. Thankful for job security and union wages, I'll never go back to a non union job.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

This video is absolutely ridiculous. Thankful for job security and union wages, I'll never go back to a non union job.

Never say never.

 

[JL 0513]

This video is absolutely ridiculous. Thankful for job security and union wages, I'll never go back to a non union job.

Never say never.

Yup, if something were to happen where you'd have to leave UPS, your union job choices are quite limited.
Chances are you'd have to find work with the government.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

Never say never.

True but, I firmly believe you build your path, keeping a good head on your shoulder prevents you from going to work at mcdonalds.

 

[box_beeyotch]

I love this argument. So it's the responsibility of the company to make sure their employees earn a decent living? The employees are paid to provide a service and the market rate for that service is their wage. If they want more money find a job that requires skill.

Finally something we agree on. if you dont like your pay, don't work for freaking wal-mart. There are other entry level jobs that pay way better, you just actually have to put effort into acquiring them.

 

[Browntown2014]

You provide a service which is much more difficult and demanding than someone handing out smiley face stickers at the front door.

I agree and just to add onto that, Wal-Mart's margins are pretty poor by business standards. They didn't even achieve a 3% margin last quarter. Less than half of UPS' margin. The business model doesn't work with a unionized workforce.

Then maybe they shouldn't be in business then?

 

[JL 0513]

Then maybe they shouldn't be in business then?

And yet, the left (like yourself), want to destroy profit and think it is evil. Walmart makes a small margin due to offering the lowest prices which help the poor and lower class (and middle class too). Now you say "well maybe Walmart should be out of business because of their low margins". Which is it? The left calls for unrealistic low end wages that would require that a business first have very high profit margins. While also demonizing business profits as greedy. It's freaking amazing.