We did it Boys!!! (Targay)

[Darmark7]

If he had provided you with a dozen examples you would have scoffed at only a dozen examples. Let's face it, you want this stuff to happen.

When one is perverted they do not see perversion in perverted things. It is just normal for them. We see this all around us these days. No sense in even trying to explain to them.

 

[MrFedEx]

When one is perverted they do not see perversion in perverted things. It is just normal for them. We see this all around us these days. No sense in even trying to explain to them.

Yes, Christianity has become perverted by Right Wing nonsense that has destroyed the meaning of the religion, yet the followers don’t see it. No sense in even trying to explain it.

 

[El Correcto]

If he had provided you with a dozen examples you would have scoffed at only a dozen examples. Let's face it, you want this stuff to happen.

I agreed with a couple of the 5 examples he provided. I don’t know why y’all act like I’m not in agreement on this. I’m just saying you still haven’t provided proof of an elementary school storing these books. All you got is a pissy mom claiming it is in a 2 minute clip that is edited down with no response from the people she is accusing. I understand that you believe the Bible provides proof or evidence as well, but it doesn’t. Neither did that clip. Those are called claims.

 

[El Correcto]

When one is perverted they do not see perversion in perverted things. It is just normal for them. We see this all around us these days. No sense in even trying to explain to them.

You provided a claim. When people are as stupid as believing claims are proof for their biases then accuse anyone who points out that those are just claims to them and they scream pedo, you can’t really explain anything to them.

 

[El Correcto]

I agreed with you that if that book is in an elementary school it shouldn’t be. I also pointed out all you provided is a claim that it was, from a partisan pissy mom in a two minute clip.

 

[MrFedEx]

I agreed with a couple of the 5 examples he provided. I don’t know why y’all act like I’m not in agreement on this. I’m just saying you still haven’t provided proof of an elementary school storing these books. All you got is a pissy mom claiming it is in a 2 minute clip that is edited down with no response from the people she is accusing. I understand that you believe the Bible provides proof or evidence as well, but it doesn’t. Neither did that clip. Those are called claims.

Based on it's numerous highly sexualized passages and extreme violence, The Bible needs to be banned everywhere where kids are present. Although it's already not in public schools, Right Wingers would love to see it there so little kids can learn fear, guilt, shame, and get "interested' in sex at a young age by reading about stuff like Lot sleeping with his daughters.
Nothing to see here...move along.

 

[vantexan]

I agreed with you that if that book is in an elementary school it shouldn’t be. I also pointed out all you provided is a claim that it was, from a partisan pissy mom in a two minute clip.

Not just one book in one school. Been happening all over.

 

[El Correcto]

Not just one book in one school. Been happening all over.

Then you shouldn’t be relying on claims to prove it.

 

[El Correcto]

Not just one book in one school. Been happening all over.

Most the articles I’m finding on Flamer and Gender Queer are stating these books are for older teens and young adults.
The websites selling the books are saying this, the schools putting them on the shelves are saying this, the authors are saying this.

You people are the ones claiming they are targeting elementary school kids.

 

[vantexan]

Then you shouldn’t be relying on claims to prove it.

Don't have to prove anything. Anyone can look into it if they choose.

 

[vantexan]

Most the articles I’m finding on Flamer and Gender Queer are stating these books are for older teens and young adults.
The websites selling the books are saying this, the schools putting them on the shelves are saying this, the authors are saying this.

You people are the ones claiming they are targeting elementary school kids.

Have seen young kids reading passages at school board meetings. But let's say books like these are strictly in high schools. Are they appropriate? Are any books describing sex acts appropriate for high school libraries? Heterosexual or homosexual?

 

[El Correcto]

Have seen young kids reading passages at school board meetings. But let's say books like these are strictly in high schools. Are they appropriate? Are any books describing sex acts appropriate for high school libraries? Heterosexual or homosexual?

I’ve seen 11 year olds reading passages.
11 is middle school.
Still too young, still should be removed from library there, still not 8 year olds in an elementary school as was being claimed.

 

[El Correcto]

If the debate is these books should be removed from middle schools, you’ve proved your case, provided evidence and I agree with you.

If the debate is these books should be removed from elementary schools, I think you’re becoming a bit disingenuous trying to stir up a storm over something that is only happening in your mind. I still agree with you, but I ask for evidence.

If the debate is these books should be removed from high school, I don’t agree with you. I don’t care if higher schoolers read these books. I think they are mature enough to handle reading it if they choose to.

 

[El Correcto]

Since we are throwing around claims as evidence I’ll make one.

I think these parents dont want these books to exist at all. If these Christian nationalist types had their way these books would be banned from society.

 

[vantexan]

I’ve seen 11 year olds reading passages.
11 is middle school.
Still too young, still should be removed from library there, still not 8 year olds in an elementary school as was being claimed.

If you go back and read my posts you'll see I said elementary and middle schools. Prepubescent children. And still not appropriate for high schoolers either. Why would you defend this?

 

[vantexan]

Since we are throwing around claims as evidence I’ll make one.

I think these parents dont want these books to exist at all. If these Christian nationalist types had their way these books would be banned from society.

There's this stuff all over the place and has been for decades. Where have you seen it banned? We're talking about defending kids, not shutting down smut everywhere because this country has certain principles built into law that allows that what one group might find objectionable another might not. It's why porn is everywhere. Why a man with bare buttocks in the back of pickup can receive a simulated whipping during a gay pride parade. If that municipality allows it then it happens. Also why millions refuse to drink a beer connected with the trans movement. You do you as long as you aren't hurting others or forcing it on them. Very clear from the last 5 years or so that the effort is on to force it on everyone and indoctrination of children to gain broad acceptance when they're grown certainly looks like a major strategy. Exactly why they're being exposed to this in school libraries. Some kid stumbles on it and immediately runs to tell his friends. Plant the seed and watch it spread.

 

[El Correcto]

There's this stuff all over the place and has been for decades. Where have you seen it banned? We're talking about defending kids, not shutting down smut everywhere because this country has certain principles built into law that allows that what one group might find objectionable another might not. It's why porn is everywhere. Why a man with bare buttocks in the back of pickup can receive a simulated whipping during a gay pride parade. If that municipality allows it then it happens. Also why millions refuse to drink a beer connected with the trans movement. You do you as long as you aren't hurting others or forcing it on them. Very clear from the last 5 years or so that the effort is on to force it on everyone and indoctrination of children to gain broad acceptance when they're grown certainly looks like a major strategy. Exactly why they're being exposed to this in school libraries. Some kid stumbles on it and immediately runs to tell his friends. Plant the seed and watch it spread.

Yeah because they don’t have the political power to do so.
No one is forcing you to go read these books in a highschool, no one is forcing high schoolers to do book reports on them. Wah wah we are being forced because gay people exist wah wah.

 

[vantexan]

Yeah because they don’t have the political power to do so.
No one is forcing you to go read these books in a highschool, no one is forcing high schoolers to do book reports on them. Wah wah we are being forced because gay people exist wah wah.

Yep, you're defending smut for kids yet again.

 

[MrFedEx]

Have seen young kids reading passages at school board meetings. But let's say books like these are strictly in high schools. Are they appropriate? Are any books describing sex acts appropriate for high school libraries? Heterosexual or homosexual?

Ban The Bible!! Incest, murder, revenge, foreskins, and all of the rest. No child should ever have to be exposed to such filth.

 

[El Correcto]

Yep, you're defending smut for kids yet again.

Yeah if an older teen wants to read a more mature book I don’t care.