Who won 1st Presidential debate? 06/27/24…….. Be honest 🇺🇸 🇺🇸!
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As registered Independent not affiliated with either party what stood out to me was that neither individual should have the keys to the Situation Room or the codes to the US nuclear arsenal. One is an elderly gentleman whose mental sharpness is clearly in decline and whose party should not have allowed him to run in 2020 and the other a convicted felon who Fact Check caught lying at least 30 times last night and if elected and convicted on his remaining charges then pardons himself then the nation will have to prepare itself for a North Korean style family dictatorship
Neither one represents the future of their respective parties. So which party has the best stable of young and upcoming political talent? Most professional political observers I've read and listened to say it's the Democrats. Harris and Newsom you can forget about them. Instead they have Witmer (Michigan) and Beshear (Kentucky) but the one that has really caught a tailwind is Pa. Governor Josh Shapiro. A couple have even gone as far as to say that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that Shapiro will be the 2028 Democratic presidential nominee..... We'll just have to wait and see.
Neither one represents the future of their respective parties. So which party has the best stable of young and upcoming political talent? Most professional political observers I've read and listened to say it's the Democrats. Harris and Newsom you can forget about them. Instead they have Witmer (Michigan) and Beshear (Kentucky) but the one that has really caught a tailwind is Pa. Governor Josh Shapiro. A couple have even gone as far as to say that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that Shapiro will be the 2028 Democratic presidential nominee..... We'll just have to wait and see.
sailfish
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Brown Cafe leftists in a nutshell.
fishtm2001
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Shapiro, Whitmer, Beshear and maybe Wes Moore as VP
Thebrownblob
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They don’t dare admit what they really are.
Thebrownblob
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@Sportello you said you weren’t going to post anymore?
Someone fact check that first sentence.
Describes a whole bunch of libs after last night...
Darmark7
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When someone says they are independent then go on to mention Trump’s lie and never mention Biden’s lies something starts to not add up.
Red Headed Stranger
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I'd give multiple stars to your statement if I could....alas, one star is all that is available in our choice of emoji's.
ty as he has for the past four years when leftists denied it but now they suddenly see it now that the Cathedral of the Left has given approval to point it out.
Thebrownblob
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Settle down
Thebrownblob
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oldngray
nowhere special
High profile GOP upstarts are mostly from the South and are having a hard time gaining traction outside of that part of the country.
Go to Factcheck.org . All the falsehoods by stated by both candidates are clearly stated. That's if you can get away from Fox News long enough to go look it up.
Thebrownblob
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Well, I went there and honestly, they both had a lot of misleading quotes but even some of the fact check.org fact checking is a little suspect. Take this one for example:
- Biden said Trump called U.S. veterans killed in World War I “suckers and losers,” which Trump called a “made up quote.” The Atlantic reported that, based on anonymous sources. A former Trump chief of staff later seemed to confirm Trump said it.
But either way by your standard, they’re both not truthful and misleading.
FactChecking the Biden-Trump Debate - FactCheck.org
In the first debate clash of the 2024 campaign, the two candidates unleashed a flurry of false and misleading statements.
www.factcheck.org
DriveInDriveOut
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FactCheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, and is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.[3]Well, I went there and honestly, they both had a lot of misleading quotes but even some of the fact check.org fact checking is a little suspect. Take this one for example:
How is that checking any fact at all? The Atlantic quoted an anonymous source “seemed” to confirm? and somehow that is a fact? Yeah I don’t think so.
- Biden said Trump called U.S. veterans killed in World War I “suckers and losers,” which Trump called a “made up quote.” The Atlantic reported that, based on anonymous sources. A former Trump chief of staff later seemed to confirm Trump said it.
But either way by your standard, they’re both not truthful and misleading.
FactChecking the Biden-Trump Debate - FactCheck.org
In the first debate clash of the 2024 campaign, the two candidates unleashed a flurry of false and misleading statements.
Like many large grantmaking foundations, the Annenberg Foundation is known to fund many left-of-center political groups and causes. [3]
According to the foundation’s 2017 tax form it has donated to groups including:[8]
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