“The Body of Christ” with Integrity (On Topic Only”

[quad decade guy]

A local Church that I attend went from the NIV to the ESV a few years back.

I started hearing the Bible read at mass before I could even talk, started personally reading it in 3rd Grade.

I figure that makes it about 50 years that I have been reading it on my own apart from having it read to me.

60 years of indoctrination....I guess it worked.....

 

[Integrity]

60 years of indoctrination....I guess it worked.....

True.

But It is not as simple as that.

When I was at the end of my rope something amazing happened.

God became as real to me as anything I had ever known and it has been a wonderful spiritual journey since.

 

[BrownFlush]

something amazing happened.

Please explain.

 

[BrownFlush]

something amazing happened.

Please explain.

No words?

 

[rod]

I went to a Catholic Mass this morning in honor of my recently departed mother-in-law. Man there was some mumbo jumbo voo doo stuff going on there.

 

[Integrity]

Please explain.

Told the story earlier. You can look it up. Condensed version, I felt a presence come upon me, I believe this was God.

Since that moment I have been a completely new creation, not perfect just new.

God immediately gave me victory over some of the most glaring things I was trying to resolve for years in my own strength.

God is good!

 

[Integrity]

I went to a Catholic Mass this morning in honor of my recently departed mother-in-law. Man there was some mumbo jumbo voo doo stuff going on there.

I understand your perspective, many people feel this way. I personally don’t have a problem with most of it, but I was brought up going to mass.

Do you believe in God?

 

[BrownFlush]

Told the story earlier. You can look it up. Condensed version, I felt a presence come upon me, I believe this was God.

Since that moment I have been a completely new creation, not perfect just new.

God immediately gave me victory over some of the most glaring things I was trying to resolve for years in my own strength.

God is good!

The apostle Paul's experience:
He "felt" he was doing the right thing persecuting Christians. Doing it for God.
He was blinded on the road to Damascus. He never "felt" a presence but actually saw and spoke with Jesus. ( a qualification to be an Apostle) He was told to go and it would he be told what to do. After 3 days , he was told to "arise and be baptized and was away his sins. He became a Christian.( this account appears more than once in Acts)

He was now "in Christ" Gal.3:26&27 ( how the Bible says one gets to be "in Christ")
Mark 16:15&16 He was to preach the same gospel to the Gentiles.

To be a "new creation" one must be "in Christ".
" not according to the flesh. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a" new creation." The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, in Christ God was reconciling" -- 2 Cor. 5:16 -19

Faith comes by hearing the word of God. ( Romans 10:17) In other words. he works the same with everyone.
Why did you get the presence of God and the other guy struggling with addiction did not?
"God immediacy gave me victory", sounds miraculous. Was your "experience " a miracle?

God is not "a respecter of persons" ( Acts 10:34) He works in our lives through his son, Jesus Christ, and His Word.
People claim all sorts of things and say it was God.
But, the Bible is very clear how God works in the lives of people today.
This is one of the reasons God is good. He has leveled the playing field.
There is no doubt you had an experience.

 

[rod]

I understand your perspective, many people feel this way. I personally don’t have a problem with most of it, but I was brought up going to mass.

Do you believe in God?

Yes------but not organized religion

 

[Integrity]

Yes------but not in organized religion

Organized religion certainly has really done a lot to alienate people from God.

Sadly most organized religions claim to do the opposite but often it is mere words.

Thanks for you contribution to this discussion!!

 

[Integrity]

The apostle Paul's experience:
He "felt" he was doing the right thing persecuting Christians. Doing it for God.
He was blinded on the road to Damascus. He never "felt" a presence but actually saw and spoke with Jesus. ( a qualification to be an Apostle) He was told to go and it would he be told what to do. After 3 days , he was told to "arise and be baptized and was away his sins. He became a Christian.( this account appears more than once in Acts)

He was now "in Christ" Gal.3:26&27 ( how the Bible says one gets to be "in Christ")
Mark 16:15&16 He was to preach the same gospel to the Gentiles.

To be a "new creation" one must be "in Christ".
" not according to the flesh. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a" new creation." The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, in Christ God was reconciling" -- 2 Cor. 5:16 -19

Faith comes by hearing the word of God. ( Romans 10:17) In other words. he works the same with everyone.
Why did you get the presence of God and the other guy struggling with addiction did not?
"God immediacy gave me victory", sounds miraculous. Was your "experience " a miracle?

God is not "a respecter of persons" ( Acts 10:34) He works in our lives through his son, Jesus Christ, and His Word.
People claim all sorts of things and say it was God.
But, the Bible is very clear how God works in the lives of people today.
This is one of the reasons God is good. He has leveled the playing field.
There is no doubt you had an experience.

No doubt!

You talk to God today?

 

[BrownFlush]

No doubt!

But the claims you make about your experience is contrary to his word . It is impossible for God to lie.

You gonna answer my question? Why did you have a direct “experience “ from God and the other alcoholic did not?

You talk to God today?

Everyday

 

[BrownFlush]

Yes------but not organized religion

The Lord died for his organization, the church. Acts 20:28 He built it. You can find it in the pages of the NT.

Religious organizations of men alienate and fills their hearts with false teaching and false hope. They are founded by men with plenty of mumbo jumbo and voodoo to go around that God calls “ in vain” worship. “Teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.”

 

[Integrity]

But the claims you make about your experience is contrary to his word . It is impossible for God to lie.

You’re entitled to you opinion.

You gonna answer my question? Why did you have a direct “experience “ from God and the other alcoholic did not?

I did not say she didn’t, did I?

Everyday

What did you say to him to day?

 

[BrownFlush]

You’re entitled to you opinion.

Yes I am.

I did not say she didn’t, did I?

Why are you avoiding the question? Do you really not understand what I’m asking?
Not she. Not him. Anyone.
Why do you get the direct experience you claim is God while others do not ?

What did you say to him to day?

Lots

 

[Analbumcover]

Why do you love God?

Are you required to?

 

[Integrity]

Yes I am.



Why are you avoiding the question? Do you really not understand what I’m asking?
Not she. Not him. Anyone.
Why do you get the direct experience you claim is God while others do not ?

I don’t know.

But I do feel blessed by this conscious contact that I have.

It is a most wonderful relationship!

Lots

Thought you might get personal but ok.

 

[Integrity]

Are you required to?

I think not.

What do you think?

 

[Analbumcover]

I think not.

What do you think?

Agreed.

 

[BrownFlush]

I don’t know.

I do.
The plain teaching of the scripture says you didn’t.

But I do feel blessed by this conscious contact that I have.

It is a most wonderful relationship!

What ever you feel and think.

IThought you might get personal but ok.

I’ll get personal when you get serious about discussing what the Bible actually teaches.