UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
For more BS from your democrat masters.
1 in 4 women have abortions? Wow.
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UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
What are they “killing”? It has be alive today be killed. So you admit that you condone killing a living being. Thanks for playing.
newolddude
Well-Known Member
I love you guys that clutch pearls over abortion but love guns and don’t want any restrictions on them. You talk about the sanctity of life but don’t want any restrictions on devices that take them.
Gun deaths are just abortions many trimesters later/after birth.
Like Ive said before I’m personally pro life and feel that a restriction of 16-20 weeks is reasonable. The problem is that must be paired with other unplanned pregnancy prevention measures, adoption facilitation and parental support. And Republicans don’t want to cover those.
Gun deaths are just abortions many trimesters later/after birth.
Like Ive said before I’m personally pro life and feel that a restriction of 16-20 weeks is reasonable. The problem is that must be paired with other unplanned pregnancy prevention measures, adoption facilitation and parental support. And Republicans don’t want to cover those.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
That's a lie.
Conservatives actively provide those services.
Democrats actively attack the pregnancy crisis organizations that provide those services and try to get them shut down.
Those are the facts.
No.
If Republicans were proposing what the democrats were, we'd be looking to propose a ban on the cannula that is used to vacuum the child out of the womb.
We'd probably also try to make it common sense by only banning them if they come in a matte black finish. Assault style.
Non liberal
Well-Known Member
How am I for controlling women? I am simply against helpless infants getting murdered. How about we stop the genocide first and foremost and do whatever we can for the mother and child afterward. Conservatives already put up places who help the women carry out the pregnancies, the problem is liberals won’t fund THEM! Instead they just want to kill the baby. I’m all for doing anything to help these women, first and foremost educate them on what happens when you sleep around. And maybe ramaswamy has a point, if a dna test shows which man is responsible for the baby, lawfully make him responsible for supporting the child. Put his ass in jail if he doesn’t.
Non liberal
Well-Known Member
Brown flush said it right. It all depends on whether or not the woman wants the baby or not. Which is bull
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UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
In NJ you can abort a baby in the ninth month. That’s not infanticide? The death cult of the left on full display.Brown flush said it right. It all depends on whether or not the woman wants the baby or not. Which is bull
Non liberal
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16-20 weeks old is reasonable to kill? And yes, anyone who kills with a gun should go to jail. Problem is, the forsnips at planned parenthood have killed way more people then any gun could ever hope for, so your argument just doesn’t exist, I’m sorry.
newolddude
Well-Known Member
So you're for a whole national ban of all abortions regardless of the situation?
sailfish
Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
The braindead drivel of comparing abortions to guns gets old. Guns don't kill anyone. Guns are objects. Murder is an act that has to be performed by another person. Abortion is an act performed by another person. The instrument they use is besides the point. Ask any gun enthusiast if they want to ban vacuums and surgical clamps and they will probably say no. But if you ask them whether they oppose using a gun to commit murder, they will probably say yes. Glad I could clear this all up for you stable geniuses.
You have moral ambiguity. Abortion is a specific thing we can have separate views about. There are laws governing the treatment of others in society. It's not sanctimonious to argue against the taking of the life of an unborn child and the political arena where laws are passed is exactly where it should be argued. To say we make a big show about unborn children but don't care about life elsewhere sounds pretty judgemental to me. Are you referring to the loss of life in Gaza? Israel has put up with constant attacks for decades. They finally said enough after this most brutal attack. It's terrible that those kids are caught in the crossfire. But what's the answer? Wouldn't be happening if that attack by Hamas didn't happen and Israel is making sure it never happens again.
You are right that many wars are started over greed. Sometimes wars are just. How many children died in Allied bombings of Germany in WWII? Should the Allies have let the Germans continue to kill millions, including Jewish children in gas chambers, or should they have done what was necessary to stop evil?
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Bravo
As DIDO pointed out there are organizations that counsel women on options other than abortion and provide health services and adoption access. Abortion advocates hate them with a passion. They aren't interested in alternatives to abortion. They want no restrictions on abortion. No compromises.
You said 20 weeks is reasonable. That's 5 months. There's a heartbeat, there's pain felt. If you truly want compromise then try to see our point. If abortion is allowed then it has to be before a heartbeat is detected. Before pain is felt. If you kill anything, like in hunting, or in capital punishment, don't you want to be as merciful as possible when ending life? A baby isn't a convicted murderer, it's an innocent being who did no wrong. Every possible way to prevent it suffering should be taken.
I once watched the former governor of Virginia, who was a doctor, say that if the baby survived an abortion attempt and was born alive, and its mother wanted it aborted, the baby should be made comfortable on a table, then no further assistance given until it expired. Now that is a baby that is alive outside the womb. How is that not murder? Not to mention the doctor would violate his oath to do no harm. This is what abortion rights advocates have stooped to. Putting their own desires above the health and safety of unborn, and even born, children.
newolddude
Well-Known Member
So you're for a whole national ban of all abortions regardless of the situation?
Um, I've pointed out repeatedly that while I wish no abortions would happen, half of the country wants abortions. So a reasonable compromise should be made because neither side is going to get what it wants. I guess you don't read posts.
newolddude
Well-Known Member
- I just don't have every post memorized and everyone's positions written down for reference.
- Wrong.
newolddude
Well-Known Member
Public Opinion on Abortion
While public support for legal abortion has fluctuated some in two decades of polling, it has remained relatively stable over the past five years.
www.pewresearch.org
61/37
newolddude
Well-Known Member
Not abortion in general, but pill specific:
www.foxnews.com
Fox News Poll: Two-thirds say abortion pill should be legal
Fox News Polling revealed what percentage of Americans support medication abortion, as well as where approval of the Supreme Court stance since the overturning over Roe v. Wade in June.
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