1 in 4 women have abortions? Wow.

[newfie]

That’s weird. I guess women don’t have liberty but a fetus has the right to life under all circumstances?

there is a compromise there that is often missed.

both sides fight for an all or nothing position and use the other sides most extreme example to justify their position.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

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Yeah, 6 of them are unhinged.
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Because they know what a woman is without a biology degree?

 

[newfie]

Most likely it just shows that no one cares about the Olympics

some of it is just not a good spectator sport unless you're really into it.
i did watch some teenie boppers skateboarding today . that was cool

 

[sailfish]

They want freedom, they vote

Yet overwhelmingly always vote for more government.

 

[Next Day Err]

Yet overwhelmingly always vote for more government.

Is having the government in your exam room more or less government?

 

[sailfish]

Is having the government in your exam room more or less government?

You're trying to cite one very specific thing as proof that women don't overwhelmingly always vote for more government.

 

[Next Day Err]

You're trying to cite one very specific thing as proof that women don't overwhelmingly always vote for more government.

One very specific thing that affects women’s wellbeing and liberty.

 

[Appvol]

One very specific thing that affects women’s wellbeing and liberty.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Life, yes. Personhood? Nope. The woman should have full agency along with help from her doctor if she is to carry to term.

Right now we have situations where women can want the child to be born but have a complication that would affect her life, health or future fertility and the doctors have to be really careful to meet some legal standard before they help her in a way they would otherwise help her if not for the draconian, anti-woman law. It’s not right.

We should respect women and their agency. They want freedom, they vote, and they’re going to punish Republicans.

The critical difference between our camps is that yours prioritizes the conveniences of the woman, where ours prioritizes the life of a child.

I do not deny the burden of carrying a child to term, physically, emotionally, financially. How someone can resolve a temporary problem with the permanent execution of an innocent is beyond me.

Your solution is that of an immature individual.

 

[Next Day Err]

The critical difference between our camps is that yours prioritizes the conveniences of the woman, where ours prioritizes the life of a child.

I do not deny the burden of carrying a child to term, physically, emotionally, financially. How someone can resolve a temporary problem with the permanent execution of an innocent is beyond me.

Your solution is that of an immature individual.

Conveniences? Liberty.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Conveniences? Liberty.

Yet you oppose the 2nd amendment liberty.

Are you a buffet liberal?

 

[sailfish]

Yet you oppose the 2nd amendment liberty.

Are you a buffet liberal?

Guy must think liberties are granted by governments through the kindness of their hearts.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Guy must think liberties are granted by governments through the kindness of their hearts.

A government that can give you liberties can also take them away

 

[Next Day Err]

Yet you oppose the 2nd amendment liberty.

Are you a buffet liberal?

I do not oppose the 2nd Amendment. All rights have limits.

You’re arguing for a total abortion ban if I remember?

 

[Fred's Myth]

I do not oppose the 2nd Amendment. All rights have limits.

You’re arguing for a total abortion ban if I remember?

Until there’s a way to save the baby, you got it.

And which amendment institutes and protects abortion, again?

 

[BrownFlush]

Life, yes. Personhood? Nope.

What kind of life? If not "personhood", animalhood? Birdhood? Fishood?
What "hood" would a heartbeat mean?

Crickets...

 

[newfie]

One very specific thing that affects women’s wellbeing and liberty.

does it really? I've never heard of anyone dying because they couldnt get an abortion. I do know there are a lot of babies that have died because their mothers found them an inconvience

 

[newfie]

I do not oppose the 2nd Amendment. All rights have limits.

the 2nd ammendent has constitutional backing. the right to kill your child does not

 

[oldngray]

the 2nd ammendent has constitutional backing. the right to kill your child does not

 

[Next Day Err]

Until there’s a way to save the baby, you got it.

And which amendment institutes and protects abortion, again?

14th Amendment.