2023 contract

nWo

Well-Known Member
I have zero misfortunes. I wasn't blaming anything on part timers. I was co signing what someone else might have implied. However how much I make an hour or my raise, or my ot language, or my discipline, or my time off, or how much vacation I get, or how long I need to work to retire. I DONT think a part timer should have any barring on anything I mentioned above. Just like my opinion on what part timers get means and should account for nothing. Part timers far out number full time and that is what I was leading to. Maybe you should stop thinking your a victim somehow.

The part timers don't decide your contract.
 

Yolo

Well-Known Member
As a ft driver making $40/hr with a fat pension, a stacked 401k and one of the best healthcare plans in the nation I'd like to say thank you to the evil part timers that did this to me. ;)
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Haven't you noticed how the company has made PT a minimum wage job and now with the two tier delivery driver job it is only a matter of time before delivery is a minimum wage job. You say it will never happen? 40 years ago I believed the Union would never allow a Union job to be a minimum wage job. No one else in the industry pays delivery drivers $40/hr. Or janitors or car washers.
What in gods name are you babbling about? All this fear porn from a guy who purposely helps the company Eliminate full-time jobs. $15 an hour is not minimum wage in most of the country nor federally. Four years ago when this contract was passed the fight for $15 was all the rage with people like Bernie Sanders. And they got it.they will get a raise in start pay this time as well. And now you cry about part-timers not having opportunity as you personally in your own building make sure those part-timers don’t have the opportunity congratulations you are the problem.
 
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Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
We need another Ron Carey. The labor leader not the actor from Barney Miller. We all saw how that turned out for him.
The biggest majority of 22.3 jobs in my building are load on Midnight and unload on Preload. Or unload on Midnight and load on Preload with an 1 1/2 hour break and a 4 year progression.
What’s wrong with that? The 22.3 article jobs we’re negotiated by Ron Carey. Implemented later after a fight about volume levels by the Hoffa administration.
Good paying full time jobs for those that do not want to drive. The same day I was asked to drive I was also asked if I wanted one of the first 22.3 jobs in my building.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
What’s wrong with that? The 22.3 article jobs we’re negotiated by Ron Carey. Implemented later after a fight about volume levels by the Hoffa administration.
Good paying full time jobs for those that do not want to drive. The same day I was asked to drive I was also asked if I wanted one of the first 22.3 jobs in my building.

Those 22.3 positions went through arbitration after Carey was ousted, the Company claimed that they lost volume and therefore would not be able to fulfill their contract obligations. Carey started the case and Hoffa settled it, the Company had to pay 💰 back pay and pension and health and welfare contributions.

One of the reasons that they fought the creation of these new full time positions was to create more stress on the suffering teamsters’s run pension and health and welfare plans. Their ultimate goal was to get out of the Central States plan and it’s increasing liabilities, they successfully got their wish in 2008 but had to agree to pay any penalties associated with the Central’s default or underfunding.

That initial 6 billion dollar pension liability payment did not help the Central much after the market crash. Hoffa’s first contract in 2002 was a given because of the work stoppage in 1997, after that the Company got what it wanted, the icing on the cake was the recent pension bailout because it relieved their responsibilities to cover any of the costs associated with the Central’s collapse.

That 2013 contract was about getting out of maintaining the expected cost increases associated with our health and welfare plans. Previously in the past contracts they wanted control of our Healthcare particularly the part timers.

The 2018 contract was an attempt to eliminate overtime costs, all that went out the window when the Pandemic hit. Those negotiated GWI increases before the Pandemic have been eaten up already by inflation, thank God for COLA otherwise we would have lost more ground this contract.
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
Those 22.3 positions went through arbitration after Carey was ousted, the Company claimed that they lost volume and therefore would not be able to fulfill their contract obligations. Carey started the case and Hoffa settled it, the Company had to pay 💰 back pay and pension and health and welfare contributions.

One of the reasons that they fought the creation of these new full time positions was to create more stress on the suffering teamsters’s run pension and health and welfare plans. Their ultimate goal was to get out of the Central States plan and it’s increasing liabilities, they successfully got their wish in 2008 but had to agree to pay any penalties associated with the Central’s default or underfunding.

That initial 6 billion dollar pension liability payment did not help the Central much after the market crash. Hoffa’s first contract in 2002 was a given because of the work stoppage in 1997, after that the Company got what it wanted, the icing on the cake was the recent pension bailout because it relieved their responsibilities to cover any of the costs associated with the Central’s collapse.

That 2013 contract was about getting out of maintaining the expected cost increases associated with our health and welfare plans. Previously in the past contracts they wanted control of our Healthcare particularly the part timers.

The 2018 contract was an attempt to eliminate overtime costs, all that went out the window when the Pandemic hit. Those negotiated GWI increases before the Pandemic have been eaten up already by inflation, thank God for COLA otherwise we would have lost more ground this contract.

And I have been :censored2: on.... for telling the truth.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
Get rid of the garbage pension. 10-15% of pay match.
Lol 10 to 15%? I’m not sure what you’re smoking but I would certainly like you to share. We would be LUCKY to get a 3% match. I’m just fine with the pension, I have a 401(k) that I put all my own money in it’s doing fine but it’s never a guarantee. Between what I saved in my 401(k), my pension, other investments I have and eventually Social Security retirement will be just fine.
 
Lol 10 to 15%? I’m not sure what you’re smoking but I would certainly like you to share. We would be LUCKY to get a 3% match. I’m just fine with the pension, I have a 401(k) that I put all my own money in it’s doing fine but it’s never a guarantee. Between what I saved in my 401(k), my pension, other investments I have and eventually Social Security retirement will be just fine.
10 to 15% of your pay would be a big bargain for the company because they pay a lot more than that into the pension plan
 
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