70 Hour Rule, Merry Christmas

[vvv]

Well it happen and as of right now I know of 20 drivers that will be sick Saturday. Wonder how that will be addressed by management.
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That is hysterical and classic UPS......SERVE your CUSTOMERS but YOURSELF and your FAMILY!!

No thanks.....when I want to make an extra buck if I so choose will be done on MY TERMS.

 

[vvv]

At our local SoCal hub, one of our I.E. guys had a heart attack in the office and was taken away in an ambulance. He's been involved in PEAK planning for the last 3 years. Our hub hit the sh1tstorm on Monday night, I think the stress of seeing that must have been tough on him. I hear he's doing ok.

They can all drop for all I care. No sympathy at all for many of them. I have no respect or time for cowards who refuse to take a stance when they know something is wrong but don't address it because they fear people above them. Which is EXACTLY a main reason the company has become what it is.

 

[brownmonster]

Scratch started this thread. Could this possibly be his 75th and final Peak?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Scratch started this thread. Could this possibly be his 75th and final Peak?

Upstate did you change your username??

 

[vvv]

If we’ve learned anything from the last presidential election, piss enough people off, they’ll vote against anything that’s the status quo. I’d wager this will also apply to our next contract.

One can only hope brother.

 

[vvv]

Its in effect here. All drivers forced Saturday or will be terminated on Monday per the PCM. All Saturday drivers work Monday. The faces on l the fellow drivers is of defeat. Stop count is insane. I was wornout today. Cant wait for.tomorrow...

I'd force their hand.

 

[vvv]

Lol. I'd love for them to fire me for calling in sick. I'll sit back all peak and collect my back pay at the end. Please tell me you guys didn't fall for that crap.

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Of course many will fall for it. And that's why the company spews this nonsense. Too many sissies/pansies dressed in brown. A lot of you should be selling Girl Scout cookies instead of delivering packages.

 

[vvv]

This was my truck upon walking up to it at 845 this morning. If they don’t care, why should I? I’m not working saturdays, blow me. My daughters need a father. Go ahead and fire me. Back pay for days. Or I’ll go legal if I have to

I just can't see what the problem is S.friend........looks like a quality normal 8-8.5 hour dispatch to me with time for your full lunch.

All kidding aside lay the hammer to them my friend. They truly deserve it for the lack of respect shown thruout the years.
Any and all of you soft drivers out there have to start manning up and take a stance. With this peak season the way it already is, the crap conditions year round, and a contract looming......WAKE UP or we get WALKED ON!!

 

[vvv]

I got a DIAD message that told me to call a number immediately today. I didn't recognize the last name, I was thinking that it was the new seasonal driver running a large add/cut off my route. It turned out to be my DM and he told me that Saturday is now mandatory. This guy was calling drivers all day after nobody was responding to DIAD messages asking for a show of hands tomorrow.

Needless to say mistake one was calling him. Mistake 2 will be you listening to him to bail his out so he looks good to his higher ups while you get nothing in return......a pat on the back if your lucky.

 

[vvv]

Make them pay!!!

They want us in there on Saturday then make them regret it. Do your job by the books.....no shortcuts....only park on the curb....only walk the designated walk path....only cross behind the truck....three points of contact....face bulkhead door....drive the speed limit....use existing tools....everything to the letter of the law. Then when you reach your 70.... pull over and call for them to pick you up.

Should be done every day like that, would simply be forced to add many more routes all across the land.
Here's a perfect example of how I work regardless if you all think it's dumb or petty.

Yesterday I had deliveries for 2 apartments on my route where there is multiple buildings side by side in a row to give an idea. And the buildings have a somewhat long walk, lets say perhaps 100' and they are separated from their sidewalks by maybe 10' of grass.
I only had one small package for each. Now instead of just cutting across the lawn which you shouldn't be doing in the first place, I walked the sidewalk all the way back up.....turned to my left......and walked all the way back down.
Perfectly legit delivery method using the designated safe paths.

Now, implement this and other safe means all day long and let me know how it goes for you.
Then a lot of you doubters will no longer be wondering how a guy can consistently run 3+ hours over all year long.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I disagree. Use your supplement and local laws. 1 Example, in RI, state law states you can refuse to work on a Sunday so the 70/8 rule will never apply to us.

You personally don't have to work 7 days to be under the 70/8 rule. The company just has to have trucks running 7 days a week.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

You personally don't have to work 7 days to be under the 70/8 rule. The company just has to have trucks running 7 days a week.

 

[UPS Preloader]

Is this nationwide or just Atl?

I was told by our Business Agent and our DM that the DOT relaxed the rule for peak and only centers with Saturday Ground can use the 70 hour rule.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I was told by our Business Agent and our DM that the DOT relaxed the rule for peak and only centers with Saturday Ground can use the 70 hour rule.

We have Saturday ground and are still on the 60 hour rule. I'm sure they will change next week.

 

[ManInBrown]

I was told by our Business Agent and our DM that the DOT relaxed the rule for peak and only centers with Saturday Ground can use the 70 hour rule.

That makes sense. We don’t have Saturday ground yet, that’s why we were told yesterday they tried for 70 and didn’t get it.

 

[UPSjedi41]

Last week’s DIAD training

 

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Suppose one of your co-workers decided that they wanted to work------would they be given extra work on Monday or would they go out with what they have left over from their original dispatch?

This is one of the reasons I am leery of volunteering to work on a Saturday------I deliver most of what I have on my car only to be given work from a neighboring route.

It depends on the year. This year and last year it made no difference on your Monday if you worked Saturday

 

[BlackCat]

They can kiss my ass if they think I am working over 60 hrs.

There is no such thing as a "relaxed" 60 hr rule. 60 hrs capped is either a safety issue or it is not. There is no grey area when it comes to safety.

Management can not make you do something that is unsafe. The 60 hr safety rule does not simply disappear because it is peak.

 

[Brownslave688]

If you're working 14 a day, 15 with lunch you'll have a short peak season. That would be a DOT violation every day.

You can only work 14 hours each day and that includes breaks and lunch (unless you qualify for the extension which is 16 hours once per week). After you finish you subtract your break and lunch time from the 14 you worked.

If you work through midnight it's a little tougher, just be sure to write down when you took meal and break and for how long. That way you can figure it out at anytime.

Yes I said subtract break time. I know half will day I am wrong but it is subtracted because you are off duty and free to do whatever you want to do.

It is absolutely dumbfounding the number of people that don't comprehend 9 am start time means you can't drive after 11pm.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

57.5 hours this week


I've got buddies that are lineman and it's nothing for them to put in a 40 hour weekend on call. Brother in law is a heavy machinery operator. During the summer he works many 15 hour days 6-7 days a week. Friends that are in the oil fields. 16 hour days 14 days straight.

But that's not what we signed up for here.