70 Hour Rule, Merry Christmas

[Faceplanted]

I guess it's unique that the wife and I have separate accounts at different banks also.

Same as me. I don't want to know what she spends her money on and vice versa

 

[Rack em]

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I expected Sean's name at the bottom of this letter. I was SHOCKED to see it signed by Hoffa! Part of me thinks this is just his attempt to salvage his bad reputation though.

 

[DRporch]

sure looks like their plan to hire the same amount of people and be able to handle the volume worked out for them didnt it.... let them work me 70 hours. ill do the same amount of work i would have done in 60 hours ill just spread it to 70. free money for me and my helper.

 

[Faceplanted]

Word on the street is everybody who doesn't show this sat will be terminated. I hope they have somebody to do my route. I'm not playing this game

So far, they violated the simple "5 report @ 8hr work week" in our southern suppliment

Now it seems that progressive discipline aka warning letter, suspension letter, discharge letter is being completely ignored

Like I said, can't wait to be fired for peak and get backpay. Absolute violation of the contract!

I as well as a good amount of my brothers are more than willing to fight this fight. It's very necessary imho.

 

[Dracula]

Just told the same thing out west.....told that our companies future is on the line. You hear that Abney.....you have your head in your and now your employees and their families are the ones paying for it. Perhaps you need to be reminded that we are employed by UPS not owned by UPS.

If you need your package car drivers to work 70 hours a week to survive as a business, you've made serious mistakes in your planning. Correct me if I'm wrong, but peak happens the same time every year, no?

This is pathetic, and it's stunning and we make the money we do with this kind of management.

 

[Mustacheyouaquestion]

We were told in the PCM this morning it’s now official.

Corporate power and lobbying... I'm pretty sure the guys and gals at the DOT didn't come up with this idea of 70 hours on there own... Just saying..

 

[Over disciplined0123]

The emails we have all been getting from our locals are all fine and dandy and sound tough...but what do they accomplish? Nothing. Guarantee none of our business agents will be working 6 days a week or 70 hours so what do they care

Why is it that Us Teamsters are getting weaker and weaker and more controlled by the brown communist ....Go to show he who has the most money wins

 

[OrionsBitch]

We were told we maybe need to go to 70hrs and everyone should be prepared for it. I'd say at least 3 or 4 people said that the same time. "Not me!"

Everyone is saying they will call in sick or just not show. Wonder how that will go down if 90% of the center doesn't show on Saturdays.

They will call a wildcat, keep drivers till peak is over then fire you.

 

[brownmonster]

Why is it that Us Teamsters are getting weaker and weaker and more controlled by the brown communist ....Go to show he who has the most money wins

I blame Republicans.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

I blame Republicans.

I Blame the Oompa Loompa that was elected.

 

[Dracula]

Corporate power and lobbying... I'm pretty sure the guys and gals at the DOT didn't come up with this idea of 70 hours on there own... Just saying..

Actually, 7 day/60 hour and 8 day/70 hour limits are DOT rules, it's just UPS has never used during the 8/70 rules for package car drivers before, that I'm aware of.

Just remember, as drivers, you're responsible for keeping track of your hours, and violating carries really steep fines if the DOT finds out. UPS also gets the fine too, which is probably the only reason they monitor your hours. But don't rely on them.

Just remember a few things: you can reset your hours to zero only after having 34 hours off; if you're running a 8/70 schedule, you have to have 10 hours off between doing shifts, and your meals and breaks don't count towards your total hours, provided you aren't working thru them. You can only drive for 11 hours in one shift, and with a few, unforeseen weather exceptions, you can only work 14 hours, from punch-in to punch-out, and that 14 hours DOES include your meal and break periods.

So in package car, your 14 hours starts at your start time until you punch out. And your 11 hour drive time starts when you get the vehicle moving in the morning until you park it at the end of the day, minus your meals and breaks.

For example, if you start at 8:30AM, and leave the boxline at 9, deliver all day, and take a 30 minute lunch and a 10 break, your drive time is up at 8:40PM. By law, you can't drive again until you've has 10 hours off. They have to come get you after that.

This happened to me once in feeders a few years back when the interstate I was on got shutdown for over three hours in a blizzard. On my way back, my 11 hour drive time ran out, and I pulled over and waited for them to come get me. I ended up being on the click that day for over 18 hours.

 

[tacken]

MONEY MONEY MONEY UPS DOESNT CARE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY OR MINE. Saw a PC out last night at 10:10 p.m. What the hell. Cluster friend...... out here in local 396.....

 

[olroadbeech]

saw upsers protest on tv this morning. not sure if it was sac or bay area.

i agree with dracula.

 

[Local 25 girl]

We started last week ,,, 55 is enough for me thank you

Suck it up and get those gross muffins to watma cc

 

[Local 25 girl]

And it’s only December 1st We are doomed this peak I believe. I seem to notice that all the dinosaurs ( the big shot managers and also supervisors with 30 plus years of experience)are retiring and getting replaced by the next generation which seem to be lacking in knowledge and even common sense

And just got off formula and pampers

 

[Bubblehead]

Actually, 7 day/60 hour and 8 day/70 hour limits are DOT rules, it's just UPS has never used during the 8/70 rules for package car drivers before, that I'm aware of.

Just remember, as drivers, you're responsible for keeping track of your hours, and violating carries really steep fines if the DOT finds out. UPS also gets the fine too, which is probably the only reason they monitor your hours. But don't rely on them.

Just remember a few things: you can reset your hours to zero only after having 34 hours off; if you're running a 8/70 schedule, you have to have 10 hours off between doing shifts, and your meals and breaks don't count towards your total hours, provided you aren't working thru them. You can only drive for 11 hours in one shift, and with a few, unforeseen weather exceptions, you can only work 14 hours, from punch-in to punch-out, and that 14 hours DOES include your meal and break periods.

So in package car, your 14 hours starts at your start time until you punch out. And your 11 hour drive time starts when you get the vehicle moving in the morning until you park it at the end of the day, minus your meals and breaks.

For example, if you start at 8:30AM, and leave the boxline at 9, deliver all day, and take a 30 minute lunch and a 10 break, your drive time is up at 8:40PM. By law, you can't drive again until you've has 10 hours off. They have to come get you after that.

This happened to me once in feeders a few years back when the interstate I was on got shutdown for over three hours in a blizzard. On my way back, my 11 hour drive time ran out, and I pulled over and waited for them to come get me. I ended up being on the click that day for over 18 hours.

How would package car driver working off the clock, ahead of their scheduled start time, affect their DOT hours of service?

 

[Dracula]

How would package car driver working off the clock, ahead of their scheduled start time, affect their DOT hours of service?

Well, if no one knows, nothing. Are you trying to tell me their is a driver in your building working off the clock? I've never heard of that before...

 

[Dracula]

How would package car driver working off the clock, ahead of their scheduled start time, affect their DOT hours of service?

But as far as the DOT is concerned, they can probably only monitor on the clock activities.

 

[Jackburton]

But as far as the DOT is concerned, they can probably only monitor on the clock activities.

That’s why Management can come in and “manage” then work a full 14hr route.

 

[Jackburton]

How would package car driver working off the clock, ahead of their scheduled start time, affect their DOT hours of service?

The same way it effects management running routes when they got there at 4am.

It doesn’t.