Anyone seen these package car cameras yet?

PizzaToUps

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"These technologies use data that’s been gathered on fatigue-related behaviors to analyze eye movement, gaze patterns, yawning, head position, and body movements. By monitoring all these factors, the systems can detect signs of decreased attention and drowsiness. If a driver appears fatigued or distracted, the programs can alert the driver with a sound or using vibration. The systems can also notify analysts and fleet managers about incidents of distraction and fatigue"

Sleep study anyone?
If you have sleep apnea can they give you a kush full time inside job so you don’t have to deal with this garbage ?
 

JoesUPSacct

Swollen Member
they say it tracks eye movement but so far i've tried cross eyed, crazy eyed , googly eyed and igor (eyegor) eyes with no luck.

tomorrow i'm volunteering again (just so i can pee in a bottle) and i'm going to try buscemi eyes

 

35years

Gravy route
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rpoz11

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I can tell you other teamsters have this. So they’ve not had a problem with it before.
Interesting.
So, let's see here....
Nat'l Master , Art 18, sec 8 & 8.1
Radios and Distracted driving.
Allowances for Radios, with sec 8.1 discussing headsets, blue-tooth, and earphone devices.
Use this as established allowances of the usage of technology.
Check your local and state laws for any deviations contrary.

So far, in pkg, Radios and there respective sec 8.1 definitions, have been allowed.
Of course, we must follow this language.
Its up to the employee to follow these rules as best as possible.

Feeder :
As far as I've seen, headsets and CB (2-way radios) have been negotiated and allowed.
Again, following language rules. Mule drivers , as well.

GPS, Geo-fencing, IVIS, etc... have all been in use for years.

To me, this sets the precedent.
If we are allowed certain written uses, and I have really not seen much to any discipline over it,
we should be able to prove over time discipline should not increase and should stay within current percentages of supervision oversite.
The company so far has shown its uses of technology, and should stay consistent with its prior standings of conduct, et al.

If then, after these installations, any spike or increase in talk with's, discipline, or anything combined leading to any escalation of supervision oversite should be grieved immediately.
The company, up to this pointe, again has allowed for the existence of some parts of technology.
They should be forced to similar standards, & continue non discipline for future technology.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
Thats the management perspective.

A call to do the job "perfectly" including getting Teamster help with all over 70s, making sure no one goes into thier package car before start time, hydrate and take full breaks at the proper hour, file on 9.5s no exceptions etc. would be effective enough...The pilot"s example shows this.

No cab facing cameras period. The rear facing lenses already installed should be physically covered by UPS.
All we have to do is follow ORION 100% nationwide.
It would be the same as going on strike, only we would all be getting paid for working 60 hours a week.
 

35years

Gravy route
Has anyone thought about the possibility of long term eye or vision damage from having an IR light pointed directly into your eyes from 2 feet away for 10 hours a day?

In that the IR light source is so close to the eye, and directly pointed at it, traditional measurements of "safe" levels of exposure may not apply.

Anyway here is a quote from the Federal Government...

Near‐Infrared Exposure and Cataracts​

The most common eye disease associated with near-infrared radiation is cataracts. Prolonged exposure to IR radiation causes a gradual but irreversible opacity of the lens. Other forms of damage to the eye from IR exposure include scotoma, which is a loss of vision due to the damage to the retina. Even low-level IR absorption can cause symptoms such as redness of the eye, swelling, or hemorrhaging.

Cataracts caused by near‐infrared radiation have been noted historically in glassblowers and furnace workers. Radiation between 800 and 1,200 nm is most likely responsible for temperature increases in the lens itself because of its spectral‐absorption characteristics. Visible wavelengths may also contribute to the problem, since the heat absorbed by the iris could result in heat transfer to the lens.

Acute Skin, Cornea, and Iris Injury​

IR radiation below 3,000 nm will penetrate into different depths of the cornea to varying degrees, depending on the specific wavelength. The iris can absorb energy only at wavelengths below approximately 1,300 nm.

IR thermal injury may have significant biological effects on the human skin. The IR-A rays induce free radicals in the dermis and diminish the skin’s antioxidant capacity, the main cause of premature skin aging.

Both the skin and the cornea are opaque to wavelengths >1,400 nm. Exposure to IR radiation in this region causes injury through thermal mechanisms, with absorbed radiation being converted to heat.
 
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Stat41

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we were told repeatedly, in front of a shop steward, that they can't hear anything you say (or sing), only that they can see via motion detection that you are using a hand held phone.
Suuure. You can trust them. They will never lie and will never change the system once they get them all implemented. :wink2: Were getting them here at Fedex also. If this is legally challenged, I dont know how this will hold up. UPS/Fedex may have a right to record our likeness, speech, and on the job activity and store it. But I do not think a third-party has that right. And both UPS and Fedex are using third-party companies.
 
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