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my2cents

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We are clearly at odds here. Today's unions have government granted powers, which are unconstitutional. If it wasn't for FDR's Supreme Court packing threats, the NLRA probabally would have been struck down as such, just like the previous two other cases before it. Unions have been granted sovereign powers, something no other private association has. Additionally, Sam G himself, believed the union movement should be a voluntary one.

In regards to tyrants, how do explain the 55 shooting incidents which have occured at Overnite? One driver took a bullet in the stomach. Higher gains and better benefits at what expense? The ends justifying the means?
 
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thedrooler

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If you cleaned the wax and hair out of your ears you would be able to hear better.

Drooler
 
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thedrooler

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Viper

If you saw Michael you would know what I'm talking about.

LC(TheDrooler)
 
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michael

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Worry not about the drooler (one look at the name and you should understand) He is old and feeble. I always respect my elders..hahahaha And I think I detect a note of jealousy there Mr. drooler , it's the hair thing isn't it ..I'm sorry that you have none , if it will make you feel better I will get mine cut and save some for you ..

*Note ..the drooler and I are good friends, we take shots at each other all the time*
 
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upsadvisor

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JP Morgan upgraded UPS and downgraded Fed Ex

Morgan seems to feel that Fed Ex volume growth will peak this qtr and that going foward UPS is better positioned going foward.


John
 
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vgpa

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Looks aren't everything. It's the whole package that counts.
I know who you are LC, not personally but you know what I mean, right?
 
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tdu

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How Deep are UPS's Pockets?
As UPSspews its propaganda in PCMs about
how it is losing business to FedEx, Teamster
members are wondering what UPSs real finan-cial
situation is.
It turns out that UPS is one of the healthiest
companies around. Here's the real deal about
UPS's finances:
2001 a profitable year for UPS
UPSs earnings numbers show that despite the
recession and the events of Sept. 11, the com-pany
topped $30 billion in revenue for the first
time in 2001. In addition, UPS had its second
most profitable year in history, with $2.4 billion
in net profits after taxes. This means UPS
made over $10,000 in profit for every Teamster
member last year!
Teamsters have leverage
Profit and revenue figures are important. But
they don't tell the whole story about all that has
changed at UPS since the 1997 negotiations.
For example, in 1999 UPS became a pub-licly
traded company. With UPSs stock price
vulnerable to negative media coverage, our
union now has more leverage than in past
negotiations.
Also, the package business has become
more competitive, especially with FedEx mov-ing
into ground shipment. The truth is that UPS
has not lost business to FedEx. Instead,
FedEx Grounds recent increase in volume has
come at the expense of the post office, accord-ing
to UPS.
However, a recent survey by financial ana-lysts
Morgan Stanley found that 83% of large
shippers will divert some business away from
UPS if an agreement isn't reached with our
union. UPSs fear of diversion if there is a
strike gives us great power to win a strong con-
tract.
We need to keep the heat on our union offi-cials
to use our bargaining leverage to full
advantage by not settling the contract early,
while we build a visible contract campaign to
keep the pressure on UPS.
Black Thursday Catching On
UPS employees at several centers across the
country have organized Black Thursday,
wearing black clothing to work to mourn the
end of equal pay for part-timers and full-timers.
The actions highlight the 1982 agreement
between Teamster officials and UPSthat
allowed new part-timers to be paid $8 per hour.
The $8 rate for part-timers stayed in effect
until the 1997 contract, when it rose to $8.50.
Organizers of this national action ask that
all UPSemployees wear black on Thursdays
until part-timers are given a living wage.
Bargaining Update
IBTnegotiators have given very scanty reports
about the first bargaining sessions that took
place in early February. They have stated that
it was a successful weekbut also that UPS
negotiators left the talks early.
The next negotiations are scheduled for the
week of March 18 in Chicago. The talks will
continue to consist of non-economic issues,
including full-time jobs, overtime, the grievance
procedure and Article 40.
New Part-timer Brochure
A new brochure for part-timers at UPS is now
available. It focuses on important issues like
full-time jobs and higher pay, as well as what
part-timers can do to win these improvements.
Contact TDU at (313) 842-2600 or
www.tdu.org to get copies.
Contract Bulletin
Issue #3 February 28, 2002
 
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thedrooler

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To go along with Black Thursday, how about adding Circus Friday. You and your friends can dress up in full clown regalia to help draw attention to what a bunch of pinheads you all are.

Drooler
 
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kjones514

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Tomorrow afternoon Local 2727, which represents Airline employees, will count the ballots on their tenative agreement. If the contract passes it will be ratified, if not, three things will occur. First the contract will be amended to increase money, pension, etc, or the whole contract will start over from Article 1 on. The last step, under the RLA, would be a "30 day cooling off period" then the union would be free to strike. This action would not only shut down the air operation, but also any Teamsters that move UPS air or ground packages. The results will be @local2727.com by early afternoon.
 
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gsx1990

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tdu,
you mention that part timers only make $8.50
an hour, but you also mention that the teamsters
agreed to that. So whose fault is it? The
teamsters agreed to it, so it is just as much
their fault as UPSs'.

Also, alot of UPS employees are forced to be
teamsters. They have no choice. Luckily,
the "right to work" states have increased in
number, with Oklahoma proudly joining the ranks
this past summer. A statewide referandum was
passed with 65% of the vote!

gsx90
 
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my2cents

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Union membership is not even a condition of employment in non-right to work states either. One can resign and object under Beck to pay a reduced fee, which is supposed to represent the costs of collective bargaining. Exclusive representation stills applies everywhere, however, so the common law right of freedom of contract does not exist.
 
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michael

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drooler...

You are an angry old man. .hahahaha, relax and let them choke on their own words and logic . I especially like this one by tdu..

"However, a recent survey by financial ana-lysts Morgan Stanley found that 83% of large shippers will divert some business away from UPS if an agreement isn't reached with our union."

Now logic dictates that a loss in volume will eventually lead to a loss of jobs. I have heard that it has already happened in some areas.

I am also amazed that they have the common sense to equate profits made by the company to a profits per teamster. Then they fail to have the common sense to realize that it takes $$$$$$$ to remain at the edge of technology and replace older equipment and all the other costs associated with keeping up with the competition,
Which, in turn keeps teamsters in good paying jobs .

Sometimes we just have to read and shake our heads and chuckle ...
 
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kjones514

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1160 ballots sent, 1109 returned, 1076 valid, 896 no to contract yes to strike, 180 yes to contract no to strike, looks like UPS's offer of 40 bucks an hour fell through. You can go to local 2727 to see what the Union will do. From the 83% no votes, it could be a 30 day cooling off period before a strike, UPS reaps what they sow.
 
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gsx1990

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I guess $40 an hour ($80,000/year) is not enuf for
UPS mechanics. Maybe they want 100k a year?
120k? 200k?

Gotta love the way the teamsters thrive on greed.
Go get um guys!!!
 
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my2cents

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No doubt, the object here is drag this thing out past August 1st. Pilots did the same thing back in '97. Supposedly, more bargaining leverage is gained this way.
 
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