Bill O'Reilly becoming a Non-Factor

vantexan

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It's not always easy for women to "just leave" a company even IF it's a media company. That's Morelocks exact suggestion for women that are being harassed. There are plenty of women in situations all over America that had to stay in situations like that. THAT"S why those women are easy targets for men like Ailes and O'Reilly.
But those women were highly compensated and only sued when FOX cut ties with them. The men shouldn't be doing what they are, obviously, but the women should be standing up for themselves immediately, not collecting high salaries then crying foul when the money stops. Want men to behave? Shed light on them right away. And don't play games, don't fool around, be known for your work. Respect is earned, not automatic.
 

It will be fine

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But those women were highly compensated and only sued when FOX cut ties with them. The men shouldn't be doing what they are, obviously, but the women should be standing up for themselves immediately, not collecting high salaries then crying foul when the money stops. Want men to behave? Shed light on them right away. And don't play games, don't fool around, be known for your work. Respect is earned, not automatic.
I bet you say rape victims are asking for it with their short skirts and provocative dancing.
 

wkmac

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But those women were highly compensated and only sued when FOX cut ties with them. The men shouldn't be doing what they are, obviously, but the women should be standing up for themselves immediately, not collecting high salaries then crying foul when the money stops. Want men to behave? Shed light on them right away. And don't play games, don't fool around, be known for your work. Respect is earned, not automatic.

Gretchen Carlson complained in 2009' about sexual harassment at Fox News and then in 2016' her contract wasn't renewed. So there are cases when women did complain, in Carlson's case it was 7 years early on so what makes you assume this wasn't the case for others? Or could they have feared reprisal from those in power above them, Carlson's case may prove the point.

The fact that in the case of Roger Ailes and now Bill O' Reilly speak to the possibility of an existing culture at Fox that for some times was protected but eventually you create enough victims and the push back becomes to great. The problem here not unlike issues on the left that for political power's sake, people pick expediency over principle. Both parties and both political conservatives and liberals are equally detestable because they say one thing and then look the other way when it actually comes to be. The real principled conservatives and liberals, few they are, are marginalized and crushed when they dare invoke principle over utility.
 

newfie

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You are delusional if you think the only people O'reily harassed over the last 2 decades were the 5 that got paid. He's a sexual predator, he undoubtedly harassed scores of women, that's what predators do.

is that what Bill Clinton did? Nope that was a small part. Bill also raped women. Ohhhhhh the hypocrisy.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

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crossing the border may be a civil matter , staying and engaging in identity theft is a felony.
Have a read champ.
Flores-Figueroa v. United States - Wikipedia
Flores-Figueroa v. United States, 556 U.S. 646 (2009), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States, holding that the law enhancing the sentence for identity theft requires proof that an individual knew that the identity card or number he had used belonged to another, actual person. Simply using a Social Security Number is not sufficient connection to another individual.

And Bill O'Reilly is still a tool bag.
 

newfie

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Not sure why you brought that up?

The point needs to be made at every opportunity. there is an effort to minimize the crossing of the border . there is an effort to minimize the illegal alien status by calling them undocumented. In fact they broke the law crossing the border and then they stole someones Identity to stay here.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Lulz
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vantexan

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The point needs to be made at every opportunity. there is an effort to minimize the crossing of the border . there is an effort to minimize the illegal alien status by calling them undocumented. In fact they broke the law crossing the border and then they stole someones Identity to stay here.
The actual crossing of the border isn't a criminal offence but the ones using false I.d. are definitely committing a criminal act. But let's also go after the ones hiring them. They aren't being hoodwinked. When I was working out of Lubbock there was a Swift packing plant nearby that got tipped off that they were going to be raided soon by ICE. They suddenly started advertising in paper for workers, offering much better pay and benefits than they were. The raid hauled in over 500 illegals. Nothing happened to company execs. IMO the border problem has never been corrected because Republican businessmen want cheap labor, and Democrat politicians see future votes, as well as opportunities to implement gov't programs. That plant in that small city of 20,000 could've represented decent jobs to citizens in an area where decent jobs were in short supply. No one seems to care about working class Americans.
 

MAKAVELI

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The actual crossing of the border isn't a criminal offence but the ones using false I.d. are definitely committing a criminal act. But let's also go after the ones hiring them. They aren't being hoodwinked. When I was working out of Lubbock there was a Swift packing plant nearby that got tipped off that they were going to be raided soon by ICE. They suddenly started advertising in paper for workers, offering much better pay and benefits than they were. The raid hauled in over 500 illegals. Nothing happened to company execs. IMO the border problem has never been corrected because Republican businessmen want cheap labor, and Democrat politicians see future votes, as well as opportunities to implement gov't programs. That plant in that small city of 20,000 could've represented decent jobs to citizens in an area where decent jobs were in short supply. No one seems to care about working class Americans.
That's the American Way!:beach:
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
The actual crossing of the border isn't a criminal offence but the ones using false I.d. are definitely committing a criminal act. But let's also go after the ones hiring them. They aren't being hoodwinked. When I was working out of Lubbock there was a Swift packing plant nearby that got tipped off that they were going to be raided soon by ICE. They suddenly started advertising in paper for workers, offering much better pay and benefits than they were. The raid hauled in over 500 illegals. Nothing happened to company execs. IMO the border problem has never been corrected because Republican businessmen want cheap labor, and Democrat politicians see future votes, as well as opportunities to implement gov't programs. That plant in that small city of 20,000 could've represented decent jobs to citizens in an area where decent jobs were in short supply. No one seems to care about working class Americans.
So not only do you want the states and cities to do the federal government's job of immigration enforcement, now you want businesses to do their job too. I smell a neoconservative.
 
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newfie

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The actual crossing of the border isn't a criminal offence but the ones using false I.d. are definitely committing a criminal act.

Criminal Penalties
For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both. For a subsequent offense, the person can be fined or imprisoned for up to two years, or both. (See 8 U.S.C. Section 1325, I.N.A. Section 275.)

Is it a Crime to Enter The U.S. Illegally? - AllLaw.com
 

vantexan

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Criminal Penalties
For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both. For a subsequent offense, the person can be fined or imprisoned for up to two years, or both. (See 8 U.S.C. Section 1325, I.N.A. Section 275.)

Is it a Crime to Enter The U.S. Illegally? - AllLaw.com
Well great, let's arrest all officials who aren't enforcing the law. They have a sworn duty to do so.
 
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