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[vantexan]

ukraine was very foolish to try and join nato the way cuba tried to join russia.

its very provocative.

Cuba and the Soviet Union were on the same page. Both communist. Ukraine may have wanted to join NATO but they were a long way from it.

 

[vantexan]

natos got blood on its hands

he probably wouldnt have done it were it not for nato

trump admires putins governing style btw.

Can you name all the countries surrounding NATO that NATO has sent in the troops to make sure they stay connected to NATO?

 

[rickyb]

Can you name all the countries surrounding NATO that NATO has sent in the troops to make sure they stay connected to NATO?

what are you talking about?

lets talking about all the countries that joined nato after it wasnt supposed to expand anymore.

 

[rickyb]

Cuba and the Soviet Union were on the same page. Both communist. Ukraine may have wanted to join NATO but they were a long way from it.

ukraine was close to it.

 

[rickyb]

At least she’s consistent, she was kicked off Daily Wire for her views on Israel

I still think it’s important we support Ukraine, or at the very least get a ceasefire with very clear and strict guidelines on what happens if Putin invades again

You can only ignore issues like this for so long before it eventually ends up where you’re forced to confront it, and at that point it may be much harder to deal with rather than dealing with it earlier

i think thats what happened to russia with nato expansion.

 

[vantexan]

what are you talking about?

lets talking about all the countries that joined nato after it wasnt supposed to expand anymore.

You said they have blood on their hands. NATO isn't invading its neighbors. And those countries that joined NATO are sovereign nations. It's not Russia's right to tell them who they may associate with.

 

[rickyb]

At least she’s consistent, she was kicked off Daily Wire for her views on Israel

I still think it’s important we support Ukraine, or at the very least get a ceasefire with very clear and strict guidelines on what happens if Putin invades again

You can only ignore issues like this for so long before it eventually ends up where you’re forced to confront it, and at that point it may be much harder to deal with rather than dealing with it earlier

consistency is a good way of telling if someone is lying or not

i remember thomas sowell was being inconsistent with what he said about tea party vs occupy.

 

[rickyb]

You said they have blood on their hands. NATO isn't invading its neighbors. And those countries that joined NATO are sovereign nations. It's not Russia's right to tell them who they may associate with.

nato has invaded like 4 countries offensively.

russia has a right to get pissed off just like america did with the cuba.

 

[vantexan]

consistency is a good way of telling if someone is lying or not

i remember thomas sowell was being inconsistent with what he said about tea party vs occupy.

He didn't say what you want to hear so you call him a liar.

 

[vantexan]

nato has invaded like 4 countries offensively.

russia has a right to get pissed off just like america did with the cuba.

Name the countries.

 

[rickyb]

He didn't say what you want to hear so you call him a liar.

no he said occupy was bad for one reason but then didnt use the same logic for tea party

hes a ing liar.

i like consistency.

even richard wolff lies sometimes. i remember him saying debt drives up prices but then he didnt apply same logic to student debt which should be free anyways. michael hudson exaggerates sometimes.

 

[vantexan]

no he said occupy was bad for one reason but then didnt use the same logic for tea party

hes a ing liar.

i like consistency.

even richard wolff lies sometimes. i remember him saying debt drives up prices but then he didnt apply same logic to student debt which should be free anyways. michael hudson exaggerates sometimes.

The Tea Party was holding rallies. They weren't smashing windows.

 

[rickyb]

The Tea Party was holding rallies. They weren't smashing windows.

thats not what he was talking about.

 

[vantexan]

thats not what he was talking about.

But when you compare the two there's obviously a difference in violence.

 

[Doublestandards]

@rickyb I like a lot of your views and agree with you, but I think you’re doing a bit of victim blaming by criticizing nato for causing turmoil

 

[rickyb]

@rickyb I like a lot of your views and agree with you, but I think you’re doing a bit of victim blaming by criticizing nato for causing turmoil

we wont always agree. its good to have different views on things.

there was a video from a senior lady in the w bush admin on msm criticizing russias preemptive invasion or whatever as a war crime which it is, and meanwhile she was in a position of power regarding the illegal invasion of iraq.

 

[vantexan]

@rickyb I like a lot of your views and agree with you, but I think you’re doing a bit of victim blaming by criticizing nato for causing turmoil

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