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Box Ox

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If it was Bill Clinton running things I can see you supporting him.

Depends on whether he'd be inclined to go along with the Democratic Party of 2022's baloney or not. Democratic Party of 20-25 years ago, for sure. But I don't think the Democrats are ever headed back to that.

The knock on Obama from the progressives was he didn't go nowhere near far enough.

Yeah, the accusations by some that he was some sort of super hard leftist socialist communist never really rang true to me.
 

vantexan

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Depends on whether he'd be inclined to go along with the Democratic Party of 2022's baloney or not. Democratic Party of 20-25 years ago, for sure. But I don't think the Democrats are ever headed back to that.



Yeah, the accusations by some that he was some sort of super hard leftist socialist communist never really rang true to me.
I saw Obama in an interview in 2008 saying we need to get weaned off of fossil fuels and he would cause everyone's utility bills to skyrocket to accomplish that. I was amazed that people were willing to vote for him. But if you look at the life he's led since leaving office I'd say Obama was more about setting himself and his family up for life. Biden is much more extreme imo.
 

zubenelgenubi

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Tucker Carlson covered this tonight, and pretty extensively. Treaties do need to be ratified by the Senate and I would be surprised if Manchin and Sinema would vote for it. But it is shocking that our government is actually trying to implement it. Tucker comes on again at 1 a.m. Eastern.

One commentator I follow was saying it was supposed to just be an informal agreement like the Paris Climate Accords. But everything else I'm seeing says treaty. I just think it's important to shine the light on this sort of thing, exactly so people can make their reps know how they feel about it. They get away with so much shady stuff when people aren't looking.
 

rickyb

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Depends on whether he'd be inclined to go along with the Democratic Party of 2022's baloney or not. Democratic Party of 20-25 years ago, for sure. But I don't think the Democrats are ever headed back to that.



Yeah, the accusations by some that he was some sort of super hard leftist socialist communist never really rang true to me.
ya think!?!
 

rickyb

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I saw Obama in an interview in 2008 saying we need to get weaned off of fossil fuels and he would cause everyone's utility bills to skyrocket to accomplish that. I was amazed that people were willing to vote for him. But if you look at the life he's led since leaving office I'd say Obama was more about setting himself and his family up for life. Biden is much more extreme imo.
obama had a track record of one corporate giveaway after another before he became president.

republicans were in power, and the economy crashed. can you imagine ppl didnt want to give republicans a 3rd term in the white house. not to mention it was bush cheney dynamic duo of corruption and war crimes! of course the media is going to funnel everyone into voting for the corrupt democrat establishment candidate.
 

zubenelgenubi

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Uh oh, now Rand Paul is a nutty conspiracy theorist too!

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Uh oh, now Rand Paul is a nutty conspiracy theorist too!

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Speaking of conspiracy theorists, my sister, who is very intelligent but a little wacky, and super gullible, is convinced that Biden has a big plan that he’s getting ready to put in place, where he’s going to put our country into a mandatory shut down for two weeks because of Covid. Supposedly, people in the know, have told her to have two weeks of food on hand to get ready. To me, this makes no sense, but what do I know? These are crazy times with crazy people running the show.
 

HedleyLamarr

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Speaking of conspiracy theorists, my sister, who is very intelligent but a little wacky, and super gullible, is convinced that Biden has a big plan that he’s getting ready to put in place, where he’s going to put our country into a mandatory shut down for two weeks because of Covid. Supposedly, people in the know, have told her to have two weeks of food on hand to get ready. To me, this makes no sense, but what do I know? These are crazy times with crazy people running the show.
None of this Covid stuff makes sense anymore. It is nothing more than a cold now! So why the heck is China having these strict, crazy lockdowns?
If Biden really does try to lock us down again, all hell will break loose. We the people aren't buying it anymore!
 
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