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[vantexan]

yea theyre related

the ppl with the power treat us like animals and they make themselves rich

That damn Ralph Nader taking advantage of us!

 

[Thebrownblob]

no

they already exist too

Correct because of ideologies like yours, you unwittingly give the central government more and more power.

 

[vantexan]

we all live like dogs under capitalism

i hate billionaires more than millionaires. im not sure millionaires have that much power. not all rich ppl are bad.

Why not hate them all? Power to the people!!

 

[Box Ox]

And your enthusiasm, to create a workers paradise you’re creating a powerful state that joins forces with corporations, creating hell for the workers, and we have nowhere to turn.

no

they already exist too

Are workers better off in China or the United States, @rickyb ?

 

[rickyb]

Correct because of ideologies like yours, you unwittingly give the central government more and more power.

doesnt matter

 

[Thebrownblob]

doesnt matter

It matters quite a bit if you want to actually achieve anything close to freedom and liberty.

 

[rickyb]

It matters quite a bit if you want to actually achieve anything close to freedom and liberty.

if you give too much power to govt or employers, which we currently do, you aint free

 

[Thebrownblob]

if you give too much power to govt or employers, which we currently do, you aint free

Once again, like I said, one I can quit, the other, I cannot. When the one I can quit joins forces with the government to force me to do things I don’t want to do, it becomes a living hell.

 

[rickyb]

Once again, like I said, one I can quit, the other, I cannot. When the one I can quit joins forces with the government to force me to do things I don’t want to do, it becomes a living hell.

you can leave america or vote out the govt or protest the govt. i agree it should be easier to leave for another country.

capitalism is the political equivalent of free choice of dictatorship or start your own dictatorship. its nice being free to choose, but that doesnt make it freedom. if it was freedom, it would be 1 worker 1 vote and that isnt capitalism

 

[UnionStrong]

you can leave america or vote out the govt or protest the govt. i agree it should be easier to leave for another country.

capitalism is the political equivalent of free choice of dictatorship or start your own dictatorship. its nice being free to choose, but that doesnt make it freedom. if it was freedom, it would be 1 worker 1 vote and that isnt capitalism

Wrong again

 

[rickyb]

Wrong again

well take it easy there, young mc

 

[UnionStrong]

well take it easy there, young mc

It’s too bad you’re a sock puppet for the left. You might’ve been useful if you hadn’t been propagandized so young. That and the whole Canadian thing…..sad

 

[UnionStrong]

we all live like dogs under capitalism

i hate billionaires more than millionaires. im not sure millionaires have that much power. not all rich ppl are bad.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[vantexan]

if you give too much power to govt or employers, which we currently do, you aint free

When my dad passes I plan to buy a Toyota hybrid and camp fulltime. Will have satellite radio, wifi off my phone, an Australian swag tent on a cot, the ability to charge my phone and tablet while sitting in air conditioned comfort in the car. The car will get 50+ mpg and I'll take off to higher elevations in the summer and lower elevations and warmer air in the winter. That's my idea of freedom, not worrying about the unfairness of that fellow has more than me. You're never going to get the unity you need to change the system because everyone has different ideas of what freedom means. In a country of 340 million to be in an area the size of some states that has about 10,000 people is freedom to me. Life is too short to chase your tail until you die.

 

[rickyb]

It’s too bad you’re a sock puppet for the left. You might’ve been useful if you hadn’t been propagandized so young. That and the whole Canadian thing…..sad

i hear ya but the divide is not left and right

 

[rickyb]

When my dad passes I plan to buy a Toyota hybrid and camp fulltime. Will have satellite radio, wifi off my phone, an Australian swag tent on a cot, the ability to charge my phone and tablet while sitting in air conditioned comfort in the car. The car will get 50+ mpg and I'll take off to higher elevations in the summer and lower elevations and warmer air in the winter. That's my idea of freedom, not worrying about the unfairness of that fellow has more than me. You're never going to get the unity you need to change the system because everyone has different ideas of what freedom means. In a country of 340 million to be in an area the size of some states that has about 10,000 people is freedom to me. Life is too short to chase your tail until you die.

dont get carbon monoxide poisoning

ive considered it too. ive camped in my car for 3-4 weeks at a time travelling america and it was some of the happiest days of my life.

im not worrying about unfairness, but the thing is you can't live in a lie forever because it will end very badly. we live in a giant lie, and someday it will blow up. its almost literally blowing up every day with nukes.

 

[vantexan]

dont get carbon monoxide poisoning

ive considered it too. ive camped in my car for 3-4 weeks at a time travelling america and it was some of the happiest days of my life.

im not worrying about unfairness, but the thing is you can't live in a lie forever because it will end very badly. we live in a giant lie, and someday it will blow up. its almost literally blowing up every day with nukes.

Not my problem. Not sleeping in the car, and I lived in a Honda Element for 7 months in 2020-2021. Lived in a travel trailer for 12 years. Small spaces don't bother me.

 

[Thebrownblob]

i hear ya but the divide is not left and right

No, it’s liberty or tyranny

 

[rickyb]

No, it’s liberty or tyranny

define liberty

i almost agree, id say its democracy vs power / tyranny

 

[rickyb]

@Thebrownblob i saw that definition and the term "oppressive" makes it a loose term