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newfie

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Becoming clearer now

I'm also not sure about your timeline. China reported it first death january 11th. South Korea had its first case january 20th. the US had their first case in Seattle jan 21. So we had to have the means to test by jan 21st 11 days later. Mass production is more complicated in medical testing because you have to set rigid standards and train the factory to implement those standards. This is where the help of private industry comes in.

long term the problem we have here is too many of our medicines and medical devices are made in china. Its very likely that we have lost the ability therefore to ramp up and produce something like this quickly.
 

newfie

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I misspoke and changed that. It's 3.4% of all cases and looking at the severe cases alone it's higher. Very dangerous over 70 or with cardiovascular, diabetes, or respiratory issues. Over 80 up to 20% die.

average age of deaths is 80 . this is a very targeted affliction unlike the flu which killed more of other age groups especially children
 

Jones

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I misspoke and changed that. It's 3.4% of all cases and looking at the severe cases alone it's higher. Very dangerous over 70 or with cardiovascular, diabetes, or respiratory issues. Over 80 up to 20% die.
That number comes from the WHO and includes the following caveats:
  1. We don't know how many were infected ("When you look at how many people have died, you need to look at how many people where infected, and right now we don't know that number. So it is early to put a percentage on that."[1][2]).
  2. The only number currently known is how many people have died out of those who have been reported to the WHO.
  3. It is therefore very early to make any conclusive statements about what the overall mortality rate will be for the novel coronavirus, according to the World Health Organization [1][2].
As we've seen in South Korea, once you start getting a better handle on the actual number of infections, the fatality rate starts coming way down.
 

MrFedEx

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I misspoke and changed that. It's 3.4% of all cases and looking at the severe cases alone it's higher. Very dangerous over 70 or with cardiovascular, diabetes, or respiratory issues. Over 80 up to 20% die.

The death rate hasn't really been established yet. In S. Korea, which has an excellent testing protocol, it's 0.7%, in China it's whatever they want to tell us, and who knows with Iran.

I've also heard an 1% mortality rate vs. 0.1% for the flu, still 10x higher.

Bottom line: It depends on where you are, and the steps they've taken. In other words, the USA is in trouble.
 

vantexan

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average age of deaths is 80 . this is a very targeted affliction unlike the flu which killed more of other age groups especially children
Actually the number of 80+ who died are at 21.9% of all deaths. But it's weighted heavily towards the older and especially if they had preexisting conditions.
 

vantexan

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That number comes from the WHO and includes the following caveats:
  1. We don't know how many were infected ("When you look at how many people have died, you need to look at how many people where infected, and right now we don't know that number. So it is early to put a percentage on that."[1][2]).
  2. The only number currently known is how many people have died out of those who have been reported to the WHO.
  3. It is therefore very early to make any conclusive statements about what the overall mortality rate will be for the novel coronavirus, according to the World Health Organization [1][2].
As we've seen in South Korea, once you start getting a better handle on the actual number of infections, the fatality rate starts coming way down.
All we can go on is the number of known cases and how many have died from that group. As more cases have become known the number of severe cases as percentage of the overall number has fallen from 18% to 7%. It's not an automatic death sentence to get this but you have to factor in South Korea's catching many cases early and quarantining them as well as treatment to lessen the number of deaths as well as the spread. We are nowhere near the effectiveness of the South Korean system so better to assume it's going to get much more severe in the U.S. and catastrophic in places like India and Africa. For the life of me why anyone wants to treat this as a solely American political issue as some are doing is beyond me. Worldwide KNOWN cases jumped over 5000 on Friday. It's the exponential growth that will ultimately determine how many die.
 

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Hoboken has become the first city in the US to implement a widespread curfew due to coronavirus fears, and will limit restaurants to takeout and delivery

  • Hoboken, New Jersey, will implement a 10 p.m. curfew and restrict restaurants to takeout and delivery only amid the coronavirus pandemic.
  • Starting March 14, residents must remain in their homes unless there's an emergency or they're required to work at night, according to Mayor Ravinder Bhalla.
  • Hoboken officials later clarified that dog-walking would also be allowed, and that the goal of the curfew was instead to prevent activities like house parties.
  • Bhalla also announced severe restrictions on restaurants and bars, with none being allowed to serve food within their premises.
  • Bhalla said in his statement that one incident that highlighted the need for the measures occurred Saturday evening, when police responded to a bar fight in downtown Hoboken.
    At least one person required emergency services, but police had to wait more than 30 minutes "because our EMS is inundated with service calls," Bhalla said.
  • Earlier on Saturday, Bhalla announced that all gyms, health clubs, day cares, and movie theaters would also be shuttered.
I wonder if they will adjust anyone's dispatch




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