El Correcto
god is dead
But only to send him straight to hell for being a sinner.
Coronavirus
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MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
I’m pretty sure that we did not start with one case. We developed infections on the west coast from travelers from China. When that was shut down, and rightly so, the east coast, mainly NYC, became the new entry point into the country via European travel. When it was announced there would be a travel ban, NYC was flooded with planes from Europe with infected travelers. That’s why there are more infections there than South Dakota.
El Correcto
god is dead
Wrong, Nancy Pelosi told us to go to China town. Now quit being a bigot, the virus came from Trump.
There may not have been a patient zero, but relatively few started the spread which is in all 50 states now. But the fact is that some states didn't shut down, South Dakota and Arkansas in particular, and haven't suffered any worse than half of the states. And New York suffered much more than others beyond an already serious outbreak because Cuomo required nursing homes to take infected patients. And a number of States have reopened without an explosion in new infections. States dragging their feet on reopening are only making their problems worse.
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Up In Smoke
Well-Known Member
As of yesterday, California was 2,627 infections per million and S. Dakota was 5,418 per million infected.
Except South Dakota only has ~884,000 people and California has a lot more total cases. Good for California to do what they've done but my point has been from the start that South Dakota didn't shut down and it's not suffering anymore than most. Also it's already been determined in L.A. County alone there have been at least half a million cases unreported because overall they got it wrong about the seriousness. A lot of people have had it while not even realizing it. Time to reopen.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I respect the state of California's right to tank their economy to save a few lives, so long as they don't expect tax payers in the rest of the country to bail them out.
fishtm2001
Well-Known Member
China was not "shut down".
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
She’s safe from the RONA but putting every driver on the road that meets her in danger.
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Travel from there was. That’s what I meant.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Because the governor of South Dakota banned flights from Asia and Europe?
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
A taste of freedom in the Lone Star State
Galveston, Texas — After spending two months in Warden Newsom’s COVID-19 prison, I decided it was time to make like El Chapo, and escape to freedom.
I was sick and tired of staring at the same four walls, watching Judge Judy reruns and eating Uncrustables — with no end in sight.
First, they told us all we needed to do was flatten the curve and not overwhelm the hospitals. Now, we are expected to stay inside until there is herd immunity or we get a vaccine.
But who knows how long before that happens, if it ever does. After all, we are still waiting on vaccines for SARS, HIV and MERS, among others.
Now that I’m in the Lone Star State, I must confess — freedom tastes good. In fact, it tastes like a steak and scotch at a restaurant with other humans. The restaurants and bars are busy, people are spending money, and they’re sick and tired of wasting their lives away while politicians who don’t know what they’re talking about constantly move the goalposts. The vulnerable wear masks or stay home, and everyone else is living their lives as normal.
Galveston, Texas — After spending two months in Warden Newsom’s COVID-19 prison, I decided it was time to make like El Chapo, and escape to freedom.
I was sick and tired of staring at the same four walls, watching Judge Judy reruns and eating Uncrustables — with no end in sight.
First, they told us all we needed to do was flatten the curve and not overwhelm the hospitals. Now, we are expected to stay inside until there is herd immunity or we get a vaccine.
But who knows how long before that happens, if it ever does. After all, we are still waiting on vaccines for SARS, HIV and MERS, among others.
Now that I’m in the Lone Star State, I must confess — freedom tastes good. In fact, it tastes like a steak and scotch at a restaurant with other humans. The restaurants and bars are busy, people are spending money, and they’re sick and tired of wasting their lives away while politicians who don’t know what they’re talking about constantly move the goalposts. The vulnerable wear masks or stay home, and everyone else is living their lives as normal.
Sportello
Well-Known Member
Not true, either. Travel for Chinese nationals was halted. There were 44,000 people who entered the US from China during that time. There was not a mandatory quarantine and contact tracing. That's on Donnie. You are correct that the bonehead move of suddenly coming out with a vague order to halt travel from parts of Europe within hours and the poorly handled rush through NY area airports was most likely a driver of the pandemic. That's on Donnie, too.
You know what may have saved 60,000+ lives? If Donnie had worn a mask from day one and encouraged everyone else to, there may have been a fraction of the deaths. That's on Donnie.
His trying to place blame on China is ridiculous. Why in the world would he think an aggressive, Communist dictatorship would be open?
China is not afraid of us at all.
“Over the past decade, in U.S. war games against China, the United States has a nearly perfect record: We have lost almost every single time."
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Wrong
New Study Casts More Doubt on Effectiveness of Masks in Preventing COVID-19 Spread
Research published in the Annals of Internal Medicine last month found that both surgical and cloth masks proved ineffective in preventing the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
Conducted by clinical researchers at several universities in Seoul, South Korea, the study involved four patients receiving medical care for COVID-19. (Previous studies researching the efficacy of masks examined transmission of other viruses.)
Unfortunately, the results were not encouraging.
Pandemics are scary, and fear is a powerful force. But as my colleague Sean Malone recently observed, when collective fear tramples individual liberty, really bad things tend to happen.
So choose to wear a mask or choose to not wear one—but resist the temptation to force or shame others over their decision.
The bottom line is people deserve a choice, and good ideas generally don’t require force.
Research published in the Annals of Internal Medicine last month found that both surgical and cloth masks proved ineffective in preventing the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
Conducted by clinical researchers at several universities in Seoul, South Korea, the study involved four patients receiving medical care for COVID-19. (Previous studies researching the efficacy of masks examined transmission of other viruses.)
Unfortunately, the results were not encouraging.
Pandemics are scary, and fear is a powerful force. But as my colleague Sean Malone recently observed, when collective fear tramples individual liberty, really bad things tend to happen.
So choose to wear a mask or choose to not wear one—but resist the temptation to force or shame others over their decision.
The bottom line is people deserve a choice, and good ideas generally don’t require force.
