Coronavirus
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zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
It is nobody's business. Worry about yourself. If you are concerned about dying from covid, stay away from others, don't force them to accommodate you. Very simple stuff. Second wave. That including the vast majority of false positives?
i havent heard that it does not affect the heart, but i havent followed it too closely. you can probably find scientists who will say anything, but that doesnt make it true or not. let us know why you think your source is credible when you post it.
when people dont treat me as i would want to be treated, IE not staying at home when they are sick, then it becomes my business. obviously. thats when their freedom interferes with my own.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Now he's talking trash about Sweden, when they clearly got it right. See, I don't support everything Trump does or says.
they clearly
ed up. look how long it took them to flatten the curve. 2.5 months to do it. pathetic. looks like they did a lockdown on 6/25 to achieve that kind of drop:
How Did Sweden Flatten Its Curve Without a Lockdown?
One expert credits a 'good-enough strategy'; others worry that it won't last
www.medpagetoday.com
i dont necessarily trust this source but i assume this to be true.
eats packages
Deranged lunatic
It's childish to ignore the increased deaths you choose to veer away from and instead blame on old age and china fears.
Liberal
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Doesn't work that way. Everyone's rights interfere with everyone else's freedoms. That's a very simple explanation of societies. You don't get to tell people when they have to stay home to keep you safe. If you don't feel safe, you stay home.
Like you said, you can find scientists who will say anything, and they have said all sorts of bull
about covid 19, before they had any facts, as though they were true. One being asymptomatic transmission. Even after that was disproven, they still pushed it as a possibility, and used that as an excuse to force people to stay home, close down businesses, and wear useless masks. When scientists lie, and it destroys countless people's lives, they should be held accountable.
It will be fine
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The flatten the curve idea was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. If their healthcare system was able to keep up they probably did ok. Beginning of June for most people there to be outside often would also coincide with a drop in cases by mid June.they clearly
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zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
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How Did Sweden Flatten Its Curve Without a Lockdown?
One expert credits a 'good-enough strategy'; others worry that it won't last
i dont necessarily trust this source but i assume this to be true.
There are too many confounding factors to know why Sweden didn't do as well as other Scandinavian countries. But compared to the rest of Europe, they are middle of the road. If you argue from a conclusion, you pick the data sets that support your conclusion. When you examine the evidence and let that guide you to a conclusion, you will be closer to the truth.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Nope.
no when you dont follow the golden rule is when you have too much freedom. for example if im blasting the music so loud that im disturbing my neighbours is an example of me having too much freedom.Doesn't work that way. Everyone's rights interfere with everyone else's freedoms. That's a very simple explanation of societies. You don't get to tell people when they have to stay home to keep you safe. If you don't feel safe, you stay home.
Like you said, you can find scientists who will say anything, and they have said all sorts of bull
i agree the answer could be complicated.
sweden is #5 for deaths per million in the world. so thats definitely not middle of hte road. im going to find how many cases they had per capita next.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Very childish of you to dodge my question.
Um, can you have more than one case per capita?
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
they clearly
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If you actually look at graphs of places that did lock downs, and compare when they did them to when their numbers dropped, you will not see even a correlation between lock downs and decreases in cases. To suggest that this drop was in any way due to a lock down is on par with telling people they need to wear masks. Absolute nonsense. Most places took months to work through their covid numbers. My state is taking even longer because my stupid governor keeps mandating things that make the spread worse, then blames us for not complying enough. We didn't have enough cases to even consider taking any action when we locked down. Then, our cases exploded after the lock downs were over. Of course people say we reopens too soon, but that's not true. The lock downs caused the explosion of cases.
and sweden had the most cases per million in europe, #10 worst in the world.
floridays
Well-Known Member
He'll work his way through it.
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