Coronavirus

rickyb

Well-Known Member
If you actually look at graphs of places that did lock downs, and compare when they did them to when their numbers dropped, you will not see even a correlation between lock downs and decreases in cases. To suggest that this drop was in any way due to a lock down is on par with telling people they need to wear masks. Absolute nonsense. Most places took months to work through their covid numbers. My state is taking even longer because my stupid governor keeps mandating things that make the spread worse, then blames us for not complying enough. We didn't have enough cases to even consider taking any action when we locked down. Then, our cases exploded after the lock downs were over. Of course people say we reopens too soon, but that's not true. The lock downs caused the explosion of cases.
well i dont know about that, but you are going against everything ive heard so far. we did a lock down and we flattened the curve, now we opened up for a while and we got a second wave.

trump is right to diss sweden.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
well i dont know about that, but you are going against everything ive heard so far. we did a lock down and we flattened the curve, now we opened up for a while and we got a second wave.

trump is right to diss sweden.

You got a second wave because you locked down. The pattern is repeated so often It's pretty impossible to deny.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Until idiots that cry victim all day actually present some information that runs counter to my views. Whining about the media is not very persuasive.
Until idiots that cry victim all day actually present some information that runs counter to my views. Whining about racism is not very persuasive.

Something you should think about.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
no when you dont follow the golden rule is when you have too much freedom. for example if im blasting the music so loud that im disturbing my neighbours is an example of me having too much freedom.

Following the golden rule is about you deciding for yourself how to treat others. You don't get to use it as means to control the behavior of others. That's why we have laws, to balance between protecting freedoms and rights. You don't get to blast your ghetto cassette player because their is a law against it. You have the freedom to choose to ignore the law, and you have the freedom to choose to pay the fine for not following it.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
no we havent been locked down since march LOL

i doubt it. what your saying goes against the idea if your sick stay home LOL

Ok, why do you think you are getting a second wave all of a sudden?

If you are sick you should stay home, not if you are healthy. People have completely lost all clue about how quarantine and isolation are supposed to work. If you are worried about getting sick by being around others, you should stay home, not them.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Following the golden rule is about you deciding for yourself how to treat others. You don't get to use it as means to control the behavior of others. That's why we have laws, to balance between protecting freedoms and rights. You don't get to blast your ghetto cassette player because their is a law against it. You have the freedom to choose to ignore the law, and you have the freedom to choose to pay the fine for not following it.
actually its a principle about how to act with your freedom regardless of what hte law says. laws arent perfect and fines quite often in the case of wall st and white collar crimes are non existent or inadequate or not enforced. youre quite right i can choose to speed 3x the speed limit and pay the price for my actions, but then im an :censored2:. its not right because i would not want to be treated the same. golden rule is anti hypocrisy.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
your right that one i quoted only mentioned countries with more than 5000 cases or something, and more than 4 million people.

again, sweden is #2 worst country in europe for cases after luxembourg


Who cares about cases? We don't moan about the number of cases of other cold viruses. Most people who get covid barely know they have it. Deaths are another issue. You said they were number 5 in the world for deaths per million. That is wrong.
 
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rickyb

Well-Known Member
Ok, why do you think you are getting a second wave all of a sudden?

If you are sick you should stay home, not if you are healthy. People have completely lost all clue about how quarantine and isolation are supposed to work. If you are worried about getting sick by being around others, you should stay home, not them.
because we gradually opened up.

not everyone knows they are sick. thats the point of staying out of the public. to be fair, the if your home stay sick could be wrong, we could have been doing it wrong all along like we've done other things wrong for a long time.
 

Poop Head

Judge me.
Ok, why do you think you are getting a second wave all of a sudden?

If you are sick you should stay home, not if you are healthy. People have completely lost all clue about how quarantine and isolation are supposed to work. If you are worried about getting sick by being around others, you should stay home, not them.
We got masks now. So even if youre sick, you wont spread it cuz the mask keeps you, and everyone else safe. #science
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
actually its a principle about how to act with your freedom regardless of what hte law says. laws arent perfect and fines quite often in the case of wall st and white collar crimes are non existent or inadequate or not enforced. youre quite right i can choose to speed 3x the speed limit and pay the price for my actions, but then im an :censored2:. its not right because i would not want to be treated the same. golden rule is anti hypocrisy.

But you don't get to tell others how to act because of how you want them to treat you. You worry about yourself and how you act, not impose your sense of appropriate behavior on others. Your sense of the golden rule is hypocritical.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Who cares about cases. We don't moan about the number of cases of other cold viruses. Most people who get covid barely know they have it. Deaths are another issue. You said they were number 5 in the world for deaths per million. That is wrong.
i agreed and gave you another chart. btw if you get sick but dont die but are permanently damaged then thats bad.

number 6 deaths per million

 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
because we gradually opened up.

not everyone knows they are sick. thats the point of staying out of the public. to be fair, the if your home stay sick could be wrong, we could have been doing it wrong all along like we've done other things wrong for a long time.

We are still gradually opening up, then locking down again, at the whim of our idiot governor. None of it is helping.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
i agreed and gave you another chart. btw if you get sick but dont die but are permanently damaged then thats bad.

number 6 deaths per million


:censored2: happens to people every day. Guess everyone should just stay home all the time, then we'll finally be safe.
 
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