yea i wouldnt trust any MSM doc. im just going to refer to docs ralph nader interviewed, greger, CSPI, maybe public citizen. there will be reporting on the vaccine from the guys i listen to.
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Jumpin Jack Flash
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You always have excuses for Trump. Donald Trumps life was saved by ABORTIONS!
Eh, they’d just have us take the Russian “vaccine.” LOL
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Jumpin Jack Flash
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Donald Trump was saved by the abortions!
wow u really are a capitalist dog
Jumpin Jack Flash
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Donald Trump has dead fetuses swimming in his body! The anti-abortion President used a drug that is derived from abortions! That makes Trump pro-abortion!
I wouldn’t lie to you, sweetheart!
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Back to Zmans point ... Fauci has been wrong in the past.
As for myself, with the therapeutics (cures) we have and they apparently work well ...
... I will take the vaccine when my personal Doc suggests it.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
But he might if the data were insufficient but he thought it was sufficient. Hence appeal to authority fallacy. Even if he is an authority on immunology, it doesn't make him correct on everything. Due to his position he is at least part politician, and he may well have reasons, or be under pressure, to say things that may not be very well supported by the data.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
I'll admit that I haven't seen or heard everything he has said, and the sources through which his statements and positions have come to me may well have been cherry picking. But he offers his opinions as an immunologist, and decision makers use it to inform public policy. At best, his positions alone are inadequate to inform public policy. This sort of situation is what prompted the Great Barrington Declaration.
@zubenelgenubi " They are not wrong when they mock cultural relativism, the idea that good and evil, right and wrong, truth and untruth, do not exist. " - chris hedges
scheerpost.com
i wanted to get that little bit in there. do you need to believe in a god to believe in absolute morality?
www.motherjones.com
interestingly jacobin supports it.
being a minority doesnt mean theyre wrong.
maybe its origin is a little strange?
Trump’s Barrett Nomination Another Step Toward Christian Fascism
All fascist and totalitarian movements paper over their squalid belief systems with the veneer of morality.
scheerpost.com
i wanted to get that little bit in there. do you need to believe in a god to believe in absolute morality?
The "Great Barrington" plan for reopening is championed as good for the poor. It's not.
Don't be fooled.
www.motherjones.com
interestingly jacobin supports it.
being a minority doesnt mean theyre wrong.
maybe its origin is a little strange?
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
It’s you Democrats that are killing the babies.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Have you brought this up at your union meetings?
oldngray
nowhere special
Former NJ Gov. Chris Christie leaves hospital after treatment for COVID-19
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie left the hospital on Saturday after a week-long stay that began shortly after he tested positive for COVID-19 last week.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Already had a Democrat friend do the research on this one “unfortunately trumps cocktail had no fetus stem cells in it”
“ HEK293T wasn’t used in any other way, and fetal tissue was not used in this research,” Bowie said. “We did not use human stem cells or human embryonic stem cells in the development of” the monoclonal antibody cocktail.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
He’s not even a teamster man. He’s a pilot now lol
nooooooooooooooooFormer NJ Gov. Chris Christie leaves hospital after treatment for COVID-19
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie left the hospital on Saturday after a week-long stay that began shortly after he tested positive for COVID-19 last week.www.foxnews.com
newfie
Well-Known Member
depends on who he's speaking to or with . he swings more then a pendulam
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