upschuck
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So you think the owners of the company shouldn't be compensated for their investment into the company?yea im talking about executive pay and payment to stock holders? a fewlikely own most of UPS stock. i dunno what else.
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all workers must be equal owners and each worker is worth 1 vote in the decision making process
the other reason people want to sell drugs instead of a legal job is because work sucks because a few people tell you what to do. i just got laid off from a job and thinking about it now its a mad house, in the 5 years i was there, the cops showed up a few times, 2 fights, almost 4 fights, plus the managers micro manage and we work too much.
excuse me they are humans
upschuck
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Only works when the company is starting up, and everyone invest the same amount. Say I've worked 5 years at a company I helped start, and want to hire some people. You think the person just hired deserve the same power and rights and pay that I get, without the same proportional investment into that company? Companies don't start without money.
I'll pay you to work for your company, is what you're advocating, or are you wanting the company to devalue everything those founders worked hard for?
upschuck
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And You think it'd be better if everyone did what they wanted? Lol, you're a funny guy.
cooperatives add more workers as well.
yea im in favor of economic democracy, 1 worker 1 vote. republicans practice it a bit in san francisco at the job, they come to work in shorts and bring their dogs or whatever. power corrupts, its like wearing the ring for too long, eventually you become corrupted.
it has a long history in america, but the idea became less popular in the last 100 years probably because of hte system of mass propaganda which came out i forget.
upschuck
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yea i did. you think cooperatives cant add workers, and im saying they can and do
Took them too long to come to a conclusion that was obvious 6 months ago once data started coming in.The World Health Organisation has backflipped on its original COVID-19 stance after calling for world leaders to stop locking down their countries and economies.
“We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr Nabarro told The Spectator.
“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”
WHO backflips on virus stance by condemning lockdowns
The World Health Organisation has backflipped on its original COVID-19 stance after calling for world leaders to stop locking down their countries and economies.www.news.com.au
zimbomb
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Does the antibody cocktail have abortion material in it? Nope
Did the cocktail use a cell derived from an abortion in it's testing? Yes
Hard core pro lifer's should not take the REGN-COV2 cocktail. They should also not use IVF. I'm sure there's other "miracle's" they should abstain from.
upschuck
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When are you going to start one, then give ownership away?
u dont give ownership away you buy into it id imagine so its equal to the existing workers. theyre not inflexible its your brain that is
upschuck
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So you pay for the privilege to work there. Sounds like that hurts the poor more than the rich.
Here you have the option to become an owner, by buying stock, then reap the consequences of whatever action you decide.
Lol, so you don't even know. Sounds like you've researched that extensively.
oldngray
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He is still waiting to hear from Chomsky.
Jumpin Jack Flash
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In Trumps business bailout America you do pay for the privilege to work there. If you don’t work for those welfare businesses, you support them by paying taxes so the CEO can keep his high pay.
yea i have but i forgot. ive listened to alot of richard wolff and gar alperovitz over the years. more than you have obviously.
capitalism is an authoritarian structure and the guys who own the most stock have hte most power. its not like democracy 1 person 1 vote, its more like i dunno maybe oligarchy which is what america is when the rich corrupt the politicians based on how much money they bribe them.
upschuck
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How does that help the poor, if they can't buy in?
No job for you, you don't have the money to give me to work, is that what they say?
most of the wealth average people have in america is from their houses so i dont see why they couldnt do the same for your job if you want to be part owner.
u need to check him out
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