Diesel fuel shortage: Why is no one talking about this?

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
the potential for disaster is minimal. In fact it’s borderline crazy.

Question to you. Do you see any transportation CEOs terrified of running out of diesel fuel? If so, who? If not, why not?

Also, why would the MAGA crowd be pushing such a narrative?


"right now, the U.S. is experiencing one of the biggest shortages of diesel since 2008. Currently, there are only 25 days of supply left, and that number is dropping fast. And this matters even if you don't use diesel yourself, because it's an essential part of the supply chain. And as temperatures begin to drop, thousands of households across the country will be using it as their primary source of heat."


"Last week, the Energy Information Administration (EIA) reported that distillate inventories were at their lowest levels since 2008. (The primary distillates are diesel, jet fuel ,and heating oil)."

However, in 2008 distillate levels were low coming out of spring. Currently, they are low going into fall. That’s far worse than the situation in 2008."


"Tom Kloza, Global Head of Energy Analysis at OPIS, told USA Today last week, “Between now and the end of November, if we don’t build inventories, the wolf will be at the door.”

“And it will look like a big ugly wolf if it’s a cold winter.”


"Reserves for diesel this time of year have not been this low since 1951, with the greatest shortfall in the Northeast region including New York and New England."

"For regions including New England, competition with Europe for diesel supplies will intensify next year when an EU ban on Russian refined product purchases is implemented, Lipow said. Diesel exports are of particular interest with the date of February 5, 2023, when the EU sanctions on Russian refined oil products begin, said BIMCO’s chief shipping analyst Niels Rasmussen, adding that 90% of the EU’s import volumes are diesel.

“The EU must replace on average 2 million tons of diesel imports from Russia,” Rasmussen said. “In addition, the International Energy Agency has estimated that the EU’s demand for refined products will increase by 300,000-500,000 barrels per day during winter to meet heating demands.”
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Because the potential for disaster is minimal. In fact it’s borderline crazy.

Question to you. Do you see any transportation CEOs terrified of running out of diesel fuel? If so, who? If not, why not?

Also, why would the MAGA crowd be pushing such a narrative? Remember, they’re the ones who insisted Trump would be sworn in for a second term in ‘21.
How is this a Trump issue? Since 1976 only three new refineries have come online. How much has our population grown since then? How many more vehicles are on road? How many lawsuits were filed to keep other new refineries from being built? We have a lack of capacity and have to import the difference. Who's responsible for that?
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
How is this a Trump issue? Since 1976 only three new refineries have come online. How much has our population grown since then? How many more vehicles are on road? How many lawsuits were filed to keep other new refineries from being built? We have a lack of capacity and have to import the difference. Who's responsible for that?
You can add to that list the lack of pipelines to delivery the fuels.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
That was my question. The fact that no one is really saying anything could either mean the administration is keeping it quiet like everything else (John Kirby said he didn't know and "didn't have the data" when asked) or it could be more Tucker Carlson alarmism.
I'm going with A.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You can add to that list the lack of pipelines to delivery the fuels.
There are thousands of miles of pipelines all over the country. The Keystone was important for getting the Canadian oil sand oil down to us. Shouldn't have cancelled that. And a well placed bomb could cut off oil and gas to some areas for at least a few days.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
How is this a Trump issue? Since 1976 only three new refineries have come online. How much has our population grown since then? How many more vehicles are on road? How many lawsuits were filed to keep other new refineries from being built? We have a lack of capacity and have to import the difference. Who's responsible for that?
Environmental whackos are responsible.
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
There are thousands of miles of pipelines all over the country. The Keystone was important for getting the Canadian oil sand oil down to us. Shouldn't have cancelled that. And a well placed bomb could cut off oil and gas to some areas for at least a few days.
Wouldn't be difficult at all for a right wing extremist group to bomb a pipeline. Anything to advance their agenda of the downfall of America.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
There are thousands of miles of pipelines all over the country. The Keystone was important for getting the Canadian oil sand oil down to us. Shouldn't have cancelled that. And a well placed bomb could cut off oil and gas to some areas for at least a few days.
more likely a few weeks.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
How is this a Trump issue? Since 1976 only three new refineries have come online. How much has our population grown since then? How many more vehicles are on road? How many lawsuits were filed to keep other new refineries from being built? We have a lack of capacity and have to import the difference. Who's responsible for that?
Tree huggers.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member

"right now, the U.S. is experiencing one of the biggest shortages of diesel since 2008. Currently, there are only 25 days of supply left, and that number is dropping fast. And this matters even if you don't use diesel yourself, because it's an essential part of the supply chain. And as temperatures begin to drop, thousands of households across the country will be using it as their primary source of heat."


"Last week, the Energy Information Administration (EIA) reported that distillate inventories were at their lowest levels since 2008. (The primary distillates are diesel, jet fuel ,and heating oil)."

However, in 2008 distillate levels were low coming out of spring. Currently, they are low going into fall. That’s far worse than the situation in 2008."


"Tom Kloza, Global Head of Energy Analysis at OPIS, told USA Today last week, “Between now and the end of November, if we don’t build inventories, the wolf will be at the door.”

“And it will look like a big ugly wolf if it’s a cold winter.”


"Reserves for diesel this time of year have not been this low since 1951, with the greatest shortfall in the Northeast region including New York and New England."

"For regions including New England, competition with Europe for diesel supplies will intensify next year when an EU ban on Russian refined product purchases is implemented, Lipow said. Diesel exports are of particular interest with the date of February 5, 2023, when the EU sanctions on Russian refined oil products begin, said BIMCO’s chief shipping analyst Niels Rasmussen, adding that 90% of the EU’s import volumes are diesel.

“The EU must replace on average 2 million tons of diesel imports from Russia,” Rasmussen said. “In addition, the International Energy Agency has estimated that the EU’s demand for refined products will increase by 300,000-500,000 barrels per day during winter to meet heating demands.”
 
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