Diesel fuel shortage: Why is no one talking about this?

[Wally]

It doesn't use more energy as it's a fuel, but you get less energy out of it when burning it. It does have a substantially higher octane rating and engines designed for it burn cleaner while making more power. The cost of ethanol without government subsidies is about equal with gasoline and since you're only getting 2/3 the mileage and it uses our corn crop to do it, you're right that overall the environmental impact is such that it is not a viable alternative to regular gasoline.

You have to add in all the energy used to produce the alcohol.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You have to add in all the energy used to produce the alcohol.

And what about all the oil they use to make the fertilizer to grow those crops?

 

[Wally]

Ethanol might work with native growing grasses like switchgrass.

 

[PT Car Washer]

And what about all the oil they use to make the fertilizer to grow those crops?

I didn't know fertilizer was made from oil.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I didn't know fertilizer was made from oil.

I believe natural gas would be more accurate

 

[PT Car Washer]

Ethanol might work with native growing grasses like switchgrass.

There is a whole industry based on growing corn and turning into ethanol. A lot of people would be thrown out of work.

 

[Wally]

There is a whole industry based on growing corn and turning into ethanol. A lot of people would be thrown out of work.

So we have to continue to waste taxpayer dollars to keep ethanol going?

 

[burrheadd]

Ethanol might work with native growing grasses like switchgrass.

Hemp is where it’s at many uses including as a fuel source
But it could lead to addiction
SMH

 

[Fred's Myth]

One of the by-products of oil refining is petroleum coke, also known as ‘coke’ or ‘petcoke.’ With over 80 percent carbon, petroleum coke is essential to manufacturing fertilizer, where it undergoes a gasification process to create ammonia and urea ammonium nitrate. This is then used to create nitrogen fertilizers. The Future of Fertilizer.

I didn't know fertilizer was made from oil.

 

[vantexan]

Ethanol might work with native growing grasses like switchgrass.

Brazil meets most of their fuel needs with sugarcane ethanol. They can grow multiple crops a year.

 

[vantexan]

I didn't know fertilizer was made from oil.

Around 6000 products are made using oil. It's what's for dinner.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Around 6000 products are made using oil. It's what's for dinner.

Tires

And maybe McDonald burgers

 

[Babagounj]

Marine Traffic currently shows 4 oil tankers and two other ships waiting at anchorage outside of Boston Harbor.
Normally its maybe 1 or 2.

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The other two ships are bulk carriers, full of road salt.
There is one already unloading and these two have to wait for it to finish.

 

[PT Car Washer]

So we have to continue to waste taxpayer dollars to keep ethanol going?

Its all part of a scheme to make America energy self sufficient. Didn't say I agree with it but living in a farm state I know better to keep it to myself.

 

[Gotta Go]

Let's Go Brandon...

Fuel concerns prompt emergency in Nebraska

Fuel shortages in Nebraska have led to an emergency order providing regulatory relief for commercial motor vehicles and motor carriers.

landline.media

 

[Gotta Go]

 

[Gotta Go]

 

[bacha29]

There's an ethanol plant at the other end of town . Ethanol is only it's second or third largest product. Cooking oil is it's money maker. It takes around 140,000 bushels of corn to run it for one shift. The energy conversion factor is about 1.65-1 It does create more energy than it consumes. Not a great deal more but still on the positive side nevertheless and ethanol can and is used to clean up dirty gasoline.

Now if only you guys were open mined enough to look at the broader issue you would only have to look at this weeks earnings disclosures from Big Oil, you would be absolutely floored at what you read. Marathon made 6 times more money in this past quarter than it did in the same quarter last year and will raise it's dividend by 200% BP made more than twice as much money in the past quarter than it did in the entire previous year and announced plans to cut it's oil and gas output by 40% by 2030 and Aramco's earnings were up 39%.

Now right now here in this region alone we've got an ocean of shut in gas and we've got the EU loaded up with enough to last the entire year. Now you have to wonder just how much shut in crude oil do we actually have here in the states.

Oh and BTW did you bother to look at Ford's report earlier this week? Car sales overall were down 10% but it's EV sales were UP 120%.

 

[bbsam]

Why Is Diesel Being Exported During A Shortage?

The U.S. is experiencing one of the worst diesel shortages on record. Why, then, are companies exporting diesel?

www.forbes.com

Any way you cut it, diesel shortage and the high prices resulting from it are the result of capitalism. That’s not good or bad. Just the way things are.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Democrats are seriously suggesting the oil industry is free market capitalism.

SMH.