Dispatching for a specific driver

[OrionsBitch]

Not a driver, so forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does GPS have to do with UPS pushing the top rate down?

They said when GPS is out in the truck they can classify the job as non-skilled and will be able to bargain for a much lower top rate. From what I've heard they said top could be around $22-$25 which still is good but it's not $36

 

[km3]

They said when GPS is out in the truck they can classify the job as non-skilled and will be able to bargain for a much lower top rate. From what I've heard they said top could be around $22-$25 which still is good but it's not $36

As far as I was aware they only used GPS to track you. Didn't know they had other plans for it.

 

[Brownslave688]

They said when GPS is out in the truck they can classify the job as non-skilled and will be able to bargain for a much lower top rate. From what I've heard they said top could be around $22-$25 which still is good but it's not $36

Do you believe in unicorns too?

 

[OrionsBitch]

As far as I was aware they only used GPS to track you. Didn't know they had other plans for it.

They just announced at our center this past month that within a year every truck will have a mounted GPS unit like a Garmin that follows Orion stop for stop. How's that for in-cab distraction!

 

[Brownslave688]

They said when GPS is out in the truck they can classify the job as non-skilled and will be able to bargain for a much lower top rate. From what I've heard they said top could be around $22-$25 which still is good but it's not $36

Who says this?

 

[OrionsBitch]

Who says this?

My center manager announced it at PCM after he got back from his week in Atlanta for conferences

 

[Brownslave688]

My center manager announced it at PCM after he got back from his week in Atlanta for conferences

Yeah I wouldn't believe everything management says. Lol


If we go with a Lower wage it won't be because of GPS. It'll be because FedEx drivers make $15 an hour.

 

[Wally]

You're making this way too hard.

We get paid for all time worked. There's nothing for a lawsuit to be about.

Guys working through lunch, they are not getting paid.

 

[OrionsBitch]

Yeah I wouldn't believe everything management says. Lol


If we go with a Lower wage it won't be because of GPS. It'll be because FedEx drivers make $15 an hour.

Yeah you're right. It's an advantage for managment to lie about this. Also I should take advice from some grumpy ass 50 year old UPS driver named "Brown slave" with a Big Lebowski icon who thinks they get paid for working through lunch....Lol I must live in constant denial of your sad life. You my friend have been broken by the UPS coorporate machine.

 

[Brownslave688]

Guys working through lunch, they are not getting paid.

Yes we all get paid.


We don't work through lunch we just don't take.


Management doesn't take the hour out of your check every day no matter what. This isn't 1995.

 

[Brownslave688]

Yeah you're right. It's an advantage for managment to lie about this. Also I should take advice from some grumpy ass 50 year old UPS driver named "Brown slave" with a Big Lebowski icon who thinks they get paid for working through lunch....Lol I must live in constant denial of your sad life. You my friend have been broken by the UPS coorporate machine.

You are beyond comically wrong.

You should probably but put in your letter for management now. Lol

 

[OrionsBitch]

You are beyond comically wrong.

You should probably but put in your letter for management now. Lol

1/10 for originality

 

[Brownslave688]

1/10 for originality

Dude you're drowning in kool aid and won't let anyone save you.

 

[km3]

You my friend have been broken by the UPS coorporate machine.

No more so than you, anyway. There is no greater sign of a broken man than an attitude of fatalism. Is that what I detect here?

Maybe for you and other drivers towards the end of their career. New drivers are going to get stuck with Saturday work and most likely eventually Sunday. Two tier wage with an even longer progression period and a much lower top out rate due to GPS. And it's only a matter of time until we have to pay for our benefits. Quit acting like the union is a Godsend. Yes they have done a few good things, but they have their own interests in mind also. And don't get me started on the future of the pension.....

 

[km3]

I mean, Saturdays and Sundays are a given. But everything else can be fought for, yet it appears as though you've already conceded.

Who's the broken one here?

 

[OrionsBitch]

I mean, Saturdays and Sundays are a given. But everything else can be fought for, yet it appears as though you've already conceded.

Who's the broken one here?

UPS could never break me bc I just don't give a about anything they care about. Change is change to me. If I can get shorter nights great! If not....life goes on.

 

[km3]

UPS could never break me bc I just don't give a about anything they care about. Change is change to me. If I can get shorter nights great! If not....life goes on.

That's a good attitude, but you should still fight for yourself and for your brothers and sisters. You talk about things like wage progression, two-tier systems, etc. as if they're already here. If we fight, maybe we can prevent that. If not permanently, then at least for another contract or two.

 

[OrionsBitch]

That's a good attitude, but you should still fight for yourself and for your brothers and sisters. You talk about things like wage progression, two-tier systems, etc. as if they're already here. If we fight, maybe we can prevent that. If not permanently, then at least for another contract or two.

We pay the union to do that and they don't. I suggested people under 4 years should be able to get on 9.5 and the classic Brown cafe community bashes me and tells me to man the up and work harder....Lol

 

[km3]

We pay the union to do that and they don't. I suggested people under 4 years should be able to get on 9.5 and the classic Brown cafe community bashes me and tells me to man the up and work harder....Lol

First of all, it has already been pointed out to you that there are ways for people under 4 years to get on the list. I'm not a driver so I don't know the details. You need to read the contract, talk to your union reps, and speak with other drivers.

Second, we are the union. If your local isn't representing you, call them out on it. Go to union meetings and express your concerns. Vote them out. File NLRB complaints. Whatever. You're not powerless.

Third, the responses I saw implied the exact opposite: If you don't like covering that runner's route, work slower. That's the advice I saw in this thread.

 

[OrionsBitch]

First of all, it has already been pointed out to you that there are ways for people under 4 years to get on the list. I'm not a driver so I don't know the details. You need to read the contract, talk to your union reps, and speak with other drivers.

Second, we are the union. If your local isn't representing you, call them out on it. Go to union meetings and express your concerns. Vote them out. File NLRB complaints. Whatever. You're not powerless.

Third, the responses I saw implied the exact opposite: If you don't like covering that runner's route, work slower. That's the advice I saw in this thread.

I've done every single thing that you listed except go to union meetings. Lol that's my point