Don’t know how legitimate the info is…

[Non liberal]

Can you guys explain something?

I understand packages car drivers and feeder drivers. What are air drivers? Why are they different? It isn't like they drive on "air".

No, no, they don’t drive ON air, their trucks run on air, pristine, high quality air. Didn’t you ever see those trucks over at the shops hooked up the air compressors fueling up? Maybe not, they work kind of early. Ups is trying out all kinds of new fuels. Only thing is, there isn’t much money to be made on AIR so democrats aren’t really into supporting its use.

 

[DOK]

Honest question. Can refuse a new truck if you want to keep your current one?

Yes

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Yes

The company can assign any truck they want.... to any route they want.

 

[ThePackageDeli]

People on here are silly. UPS has had a plan all along. They were sure to make sure the public knew about AC in package cars

They spent tons of money on think tanks to gauge reaction, as well as legal. I’m sorry but the teamsters do not have the same resources

It was agreed by both sides that we had a tentative agreement on everything besides economics

People are underestimating what ups can and will do. Look at the fear they put into freight before having them agree to a sorry deal

Teamsters either get bullied into a chit deal, or ups 100% will paint this as an economic stike, and there is an actual chance the courts delay and or side with Carol bergstein.

Carol and co can EASILY pay pvd’s 30 bux an hour wirh no bene’s, get gypsies to pull loads, and contract our air service to one of the many cargo contractors

They won’t be able to handle all the volume, but with lots of shippers leaving, they can set something up within a few months while pushing this economic strike, as well as “42 dollar an hour complainers” narrative.

I overheard a supervisor a few weeks ago talking with another on road. This supervisor talking is a family member of a highly connected OG ex center manager, who is connected to OG upper managment. I worked for the center manager for years and can verify who he knows and his connections. The things I was hearing were troubling, and are all actually happening.

I spoke with a FedEx express guy with 25 years about their restructuring, what FedEx is doing is HUGE. Ups needs to do something to compete.

We may be entering something that lots are not understanding. Imagine a long time frame strike, and ups refusing to bring us back while scabs are working and the legal aspects are held up in the courts. It could be a month or more, or never.

Hopefully it gets worked out, but people need to understand there is a possibility as slim as it may be, that those who walk have no job to come back to.

I love this. I hope it happens the way you describe. How exciting will that be for all of us to have to start over? That's just what our spirits need.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I’m sorry but the teamsters do not have the same resources

And how were you able to determine that ?

I overheard a supervisor a few weeks ago talking with another on road. This supervisor talking is a family member of a highly connected OG ex center manager, who is connected to OG upper managment. I worked for the center manager for years and can verify who he knows and his connections. The things I was hearing were troubling, and are all actually happening.

Yawn....

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

bear in mind that air conditioning will cut into raises..............ac is expensive initially and will reduce fuel mileage thus costs....I would rather have the $$...instead consider better ventilation thru out the vehicles............

I assure you, putting a/c in every package car moving forward is cheaper than paying the total fines and comp claims for all of the heat related injuries they've been paying.

 

[Thebrownblob]

And how were you able to determine that ?



Yawn....

Searching his previous post, he seems to be a very credible and reliable source……












Said no one ever

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

People on here are silly. UPS has had a plan all along. They were sure to make sure the public knew about AC in package cars

They spent tons of money on think tanks to gauge reaction, as well as legal. I’m sorry but the teamsters do not have the same resources

It was agreed by both sides that we had a tentative agreement on everything besides economics

People are underestimating what ups can and will do. Look at the fear they put into freight before having them agree to a sorry deal

Teamsters either get bullied into a chit deal, or ups 100% will paint this as an economic stike, and there is an actual chance the courts delay and or side with Carol bergstein.

Carol and co can EASILY pay pvd’s 30 bux an hour wirh no bene’s, get gypsies to pull loads, and contract our air service to one of the many cargo contractors

They won’t be able to handle all the volume, but with lots of shippers leaving, they can set something up within a few months while pushing this economic strike, as well as “42 dollar an hour complainers” narrative.

I overheard a supervisor a few weeks ago talking with another on road. This supervisor talking is a family member of a highly connected OG ex center manager, who is connected to OG upper managment. I worked for the center manager for years and can verify who he knows and his connections. The things I was hearing were troubling, and are all actually happening.

I spoke with a FedEx express guy with 25 years about their restructuring, what FedEx is doing is HUGE. Ups needs to do something to compete.

We may be entering something that lots are not understanding. Imagine a long time frame strike, and ups refusing to bring us back while scabs are working and the legal aspects are held up in the courts. It could be a month or more, or never.

Hopefully it gets worked out, but people need to understand there is a possibility as slim as it may be, that those who walk have no job to come back to.

No one cares who you know or who they know. UPS can't just hire scabs and choose not to deal with the union. I'm impressed by the number of morons who think this is an avenue to get rid of the union. You're an idiot.

 

[Thebrownblob]

No one cares who you know or who they know. UPS can't just hire scabs and choose not to deal with the union. I'm impressed by the number of morons who think this is an avenue to get rid of the union. You're an idiot.

Please let him continue to make a fool of himself. It’s fun to watch. By his past posts, it seems to be his forte.

 

[Cowboy Mac]

bear in mind that air conditioning will cut into raises..............ac is expensive initially and will reduce fuel mileage thus costs....I would rather have the $$...instead consider better ventilation thru out the vehicles............

It’s expensive when you have to pay money to take it out of the vehicle from the factory. Fuel mileage? Really? So I guess you’ll be taking the AC out of your personal vehicle to save the Earth’s rainforests?

 

[9.5mania]

People on here are silly. UPS has had a plan all along. They were sure to make sure the public knew about AC in package cars

They spent tons of money on think tanks to gauge reaction, as well as legal. I’m sorry but the teamsters do not have the same resources

It was agreed by both sides that we had a tentative agreement on everything besides economics

People are underestimating what ups can and will do. Look at the fear they put into freight before having them agree to a sorry deal

Teamsters either get bullied into a chit deal, or ups 100% will paint this as an economic stike, and there is an actual chance the courts delay and or side with Carol bergstein.

Carol and co can EASILY pay pvd’s 30 bux an hour wirh no bene’s, get gypsies to pull loads, and contract our air service to one of the many cargo contractors

They won’t be able to handle all the volume, but with lots of shippers leaving, they can set something up within a few months while pushing this economic strike, as well as “42 dollar an hour complainers” narrative.

I overheard a supervisor a few weeks ago talking with another on road. This supervisor talking is a family member of a highly connected OG ex center manager, who is connected to OG upper managment. I worked for the center manager for years and can verify who he knows and his connections. The things I was hearing were troubling, and are all actually happening.

I spoke with a FedEx express guy with 25 years about their restructuring, what FedEx is doing is HUGE. Ups needs to do something to compete.

We may be entering something that lots are not understanding. Imagine a long time frame strike, and ups refusing to bring us back while scabs are working and the legal aspects are held up in the courts. It could be a month or more, or never.

Hopefully it gets worked out, but people need to understand there is a possibility as slim as it may be, that those who walk have no job to come back to.

While your nightmare scenario could happen, I have serious doubts. First, the money and players involved with a UPS strike aren’t prepared to take that risk. UPS is considered a safe investment so lots of big hedge funds have stored a ton of money in it. They are not in the business of losing money so I would imagine they would frown on a UPS strike. Secondly, although an economic strike allows for replacement workers, the courts would side with the teamsters as they present evidence of unfair labor practices by UPS. Also, general council has been trying to remove that language in an economic strike for a while now. With jobs on the line, they’ll do it and make it retroactive.

My advice, relax. A deal will get done and although SOB says we strike if not ratified by Aug 1, I judge if they make a last minute deal, he won’t authorize strike unless members reject the contract.

 

[9.5mania]

Someone told the negotiators we were going to die without it. Going to be over 100° where I am the next few days. It’s gonna suck but I’ll live.

This is exactly my point on scabs, this job sucks. We all work our asses off. Who off the street will do this job? I’m aware they’ll get some people but my experience on new UPS hires is that they’ll deliver more to themselves than to customers. I think the company understands this as well.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

This is exactly my point on scabs, this job sucks. We all work our asses off. Who off the street will do this job? I’m aware they’ll get some people but my experience on new UPS hires is that they’ll deliver more to themselves than to customers. I think the company understands this as well.

And many of the scabs don't understand what they're doing, and just think it's a way to get their foot in the door. Have no idea they get ghosted when we go back to work.

 

[anonymous23456]

Please let him continue to make a fool of himself. It’s fun to watch. By his past posts, it seems to be his forte.

You know the guy isn't entirely wrong! Don't underestimate your enemy. Did you read the Art of War ever?

You can play this game and pretending to be Tome for a few minutes. What would you do?

 

[Thebrownblob]

You know the guy isn't entirely wrong! Don't underestimate your enemy. Did you read the Art of War ever?

He’s wrong. Doesn't work that way. Ups has a huge liability to the union work force, not even getting into the idea of replacing 200-300k employees. We can’t even properly staff the operation now. And guarantee no one he knows has any idea about this top secret plan.

 

[Faceplanted]

He’s wrong. Doesn't work that way. Ups has a huge liability to the union work force, not even getting into the idea of replacing 200-300k employees. We can’t even properly staff the operation now. And guarantee no one he knows has any idea about this top secret plan.

“Top secret plan”

Bruh, all I’m saying this is a real possibility. That’s all I’m saying, as minuscule as it may be.

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence ups and teamsters were shilling the media on how we have handshake agreement ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT ECONOMICS. ECONOMICS

As far as ups, the teamsters, and the public care, huge strides were made in work place safety with the AC bs.

So just to reiterate, the main issue is economics? Can we all agree on that?

I don’t care what a bunch of truck drivers on the internet think about what I overheard, nor do I care if you believe me concerning mocking me….. or doing Reddit tier post history search as that some how negates what I’m saying.

 

[anonymous23456]

“Top secret plan”

Bruh, all I’m saying this is a real possibility. That’s all I’m saying, as minuscule as it may be.

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence ups and teamsters were shilling the media on how we have handshake agreement ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT ECONOMICS. ECONOMICS

As far as ups, the teamsters, and the public care, huge strides were made in work place safety with the AC bs.

So just to reiterate, the main issue is economics? Can we all agree on that?

I don’t care what a bunch of truck drivers on the internet think about what I overheard, nor do I care if you believe me concerning mocking me….. or doing Reddit tier post history search as that some how negates what I’m saying.

I understand what you are saying. Each side will only think about their own side, and it is human nature.

 

[ManInBrown]

And many of the scabs don't understand what they're doing, and just think it's a way to get their foot in the door. Have no idea they get ghosted when we go back to work.

Im very interested to see who crosses the picket line among the feeder workforce at my building. I have no doubt there will be a handful that do.

 

[Thebrownblob]

“Top secret plan”

Bruh, all I’m saying this is a real possibility. That’s all I’m saying, as minuscule as it may be.

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence ups and teamsters were shilling the media on how we have handshake agreement ON EVERYTHING EXCEPT ECONOMICS. ECONOMICS

As far as ups, the teamsters, and the public care, huge strides were made in work place safety with the AC bs.

So just to reiterate, the main issue is economics? Can we all agree on that?

I don’t care what a bunch of truck drivers on the internet think about what I overheard, nor do I care if you believe me concerning mocking me….. or doing Reddit tier post history search as that some how negates what I’m saying.

Bruh it’s not possible or feasible and don’t forget a bunch of truck drivers created this work for you, with this pay, and these benefits, and this retirement, now sit down and shut up and listen to the big boys. Quit spreading your BS fear mongering.

 

[Faceplanted]

ok, explain to me and everybody else how if we do end up striking, that ups cannot paint this strike as an economic strike. Please explain so I can admit I’m wrong.

The courts are pro corp and have been for years.

“Shut up”,

this is the teamsters now. “It’s your fault”. “Shut up”. “Not enough people voted so we shoved the contract down your throat”