1989
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Reagan always said that. I believe the tax maxes out @128k and is only taxed on wages.
Tens of millions of working people have 401k's. That's the stock market and their retirement.
If we hadn't cut taxes we'd still have stagnation. That's increasing the debt without improving workers lives. If you a better way to do things then please tell us.
something like that.
what % of the population?
1989
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Most, if not all, the middle class
yea and thats a shrinking segment and smaller than the % who are poor.
which goes back to my memory saying its around 50% of the pop owns stock.
Generally speaking, workers’ lives haven’t improved and at the same time we’ve saddled the next generations with even more foolish debt.
How much, when it’s all said and done, do you think workers [sic] lives will have improved by the end of the current administration?
You defended Obama's spending repeatedly. But please get this point. Revenue has gone up after the tax cuts, which you and yours said it wouldn't. We don't have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. And I agree wholeheartedly that the spending needs to be cut. And when it is Democrats will squeal like stuck pigs. And Republicans in Congress have proven time and again that when the squealing starts they'll back down. If we go over a fiscal cliff can almost guarantee that the Republicans will be blamed.
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Immensely. We'll all be in mini-mansions with chauffeured limos out front, sipping on champagne by the pool while semi-nude college co-eds wave palm fronds over us. Is that what you want to hear? Bill Clinton said during the 2016 election that the working man has nothing to look forward to when he wakes up. Is that what you want more of? No one is owed a great living, but if one wants to work, and has opportunities to improve his lot in life, the government should strive towards making that possible. Wasn't happening until recently.
Easy enough to look up on Google. 54 million Americans have 401k's I just found out.
Come on, Van. You’re probably a pretty decent dude in real life, but do you really think things are getting better for the average Joe?
Absolutely. If the average Joe has opportunities he didn't have before, and is willing to take advantage of those opportunities, then yes. It's up to the individual to take care of themselves, not up to the government to give them everything.
yea i dont need to look it up on google (again) to know that the stock market is not a good indicator of economic well being for the average joe.
1989
Well-Known Member
Good to see that zero down subprime mortgages are coming back.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Of course he does.
When you live your life with self worth issues and delusions of persecution, all you really need is a good motivational speaker to tell you everything will be ok. It got Obama elected, then it got Trump elected.
Trump has essentially been a therapist for a huge swath of the electorate that was told for 8 years by the far right that the world was coming to an end.
Economic fundamentals, fiscal policy, facts in general.... None of it matters. The only thing that matters is how Trump makes them feel.
Everything you guys said would happen if Trump was elected hasn't, and much of what you said wouldn't happen has. So who's right here? Not you.
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