Express packages to ground

[MAKAVELI]

You don’t know what the compensation will be. I also don’t believe you care about my bottom line. You’re just making stuff up to be argumentative.

You'll be spending more in fuel, maintenance and labor costs if they gave you our premium services. One minute late on any package means $ out of your pocket. Might want to think this through before claiming easy $.

 

[It will be fine]

1. We both know that FedEx will undercompensate you to increase their margins. That's called history.
2. My caring is immaterial to what will happen to your bottom line.
3. My facts are your fiction, if that's what you prefer to believe. Desperation will do that to you.

You aren’t presenting facts. There is no way to tell the effect on my bottom line without having any idea what the compensation will be. You guys freak out about commit times without understanding that I have 4-5 routes for each of yours. A handful of 10:30 deliveries won’t destroy my margins.

 

[yadig]

You aren’t presenting facts. There is no way to tell the effect on my bottom line without having any idea what the compensation will be. You guys freak out about commit times without understanding that I have 4-5 routes for each of yours. A handful of 10:30 deliveries won’t destroy my margins.

Lol!! When it’s not delivered by 10:30 the customer gets reimbursed and those p1’s are expensive as hell. I guess Raj will reimburse the customer.

 

[HedleyLamarr]

Don't forget...this company no longer cares about service! Will Ground have lots of lates? Absolutely, and they don't care!

Saw this just now on the local Reddit.

 

[bbsam]

But if YOU fail, it comes out of YOUR pocket.

If FedEx makes it worth it, I won’t fail. If they don’t, then it comes out of THEIR pocket.

Definitely a lesson they should learn sooner rather than later if they don’t want to continue to lose shippers.

 

[bbsam]

Lol!! When it’s not delivered by 10:30 the customer gets reimbursed and those p1’s are expensive as hell. I guess Raj will reimburse the customer.

You should look closely into that. Not long ago neither FedEx nor UPS were reimbursing for those.

The thinking went like this: Nobody has any capacity so the customer isn’t going anywhere.

Maybe that’s changed, but that just means that if Raj wants to send P1 to Ground, thencompensation has to match the expectation of performance.

Now think about putting that on contractors that quite frankly don’t care about demands and threats coming from Pittsburgh. Raj and John Smith built themselves a disaster. We’ll see how they steer it.

 

[yadig]

If FedEx makes it worth it, I won’t fail. If they don’t, then it comes out of THEIR pocket.

Definitely a lesson they should learn sooner rather than later if they don’t want to continue to lose shippers.

Sam I don’t think FedEx will ever make it worth it to you, it’s not in their dna. It’s gonna be some tough going ahead for both sides and at the end of the day I could care less. I told dano months ago that FedEx will be a contractor model and he called me a idiot, I look pretty smart now’

 

[bbsam]

Sam I don’t think FedEx will ever make it worth it to you, it’s not in their dna. It’s gonna be some tough going ahead for both sides and at the end of the day I could care less. I told dano months ago that FedEx will be a contractor model and he called me a idiot, I look pretty smart now’

Exactly. For the most part, contractors no longer care. We’ll cash the checks and service whatever pays to service. If FedEx doesn’t like it, they’ll do something. Fire all the contractors? Maybe. Maybe if they do, they should have a viable plan to get everything delivered.

I’m actually amazed that so many people here just think that FedEx “laid the wood” and contractors just fell into line. Nothing could be further from the truth.

This was a post last week. Looks like another salvo inbound last week of November.

 

[McFeely]

You should look closely into that. Not long ago neither FedEx nor UPS were reimbursing for those.

If I’m not mistaken, the MBG was reinstated for P1 services back in April 2022, possibly for FO and SO as well.

I’m not certain about 2-Day and Express Savers.

 

[59 Dano]

I told dano months ago that FedEx will be a contractor model and he called me a idiot

I didn't call you an idiot.

Not about that, anyway. I said something along the lines of, " Anything is possible to one degree or another but I don't see that happening." And by "something along the lines of," I mean, "exactly."

 

[MAKAVELI]

You should look closely into that. Not long ago neither FedEx nor UPS were reimbursing for those.

The thinking went like this: Nobody has any capacity so the customer isn’t going anywhere.

Maybe that’s changed, but that just means that if Raj wants to send P1 to Ground, thencompensation has to match the expectation of performance.

Now think about putting that on contractors that quite frankly don’t care about demands and threats coming from Pittsburgh. Raj and John Smith built themselves a disaster. We’ll see how they steer it.

It doesn't matter if they suspend MBG. They will still make you pay and you know it

 

[bbsam]

It doesn't matter if they suspend MBG. They will still make you pay and you know it

No. They won’t.

Contractors are leaving every day. More will continue to do so.

Not a hard concept to grasp.

 

[Cactus]

Just the amount of current falsification from Ground is well documented in forums and the publics view. DSR signature falsification is rampant as well as ASR. The Ground guy in one of our areas left a pile of ASR firearm boxes (forged signature) outside a dealer that was closed . It’s astonishing. My wife gets signature required wine about once a month and except for one time the drivers have forged our signatures and they just leave it. They don’t know I work for Express and it’s been about 10 different drivers .

You tell em! Ground’s nasty habit of falsification has been running rampant since day one. Corporate turns a blind eye to this while running a set of double standards between Express and Ground. If they think Ground is gonna miraculously step up to the plate and solve all their service problems they need to lay off the crack-pipe.

 

[thedownhillEXPRESS]

You aren’t presenting facts. There is no way to tell the effect on my bottom line without having any idea what the compensation will be. You guys freak out about commit times without understanding that I have 4-5 routes for each of yours. A handful of 10:30 deliveries won’t destroy my margins.

A handful of 10:30 deliveries may indeed destroy your margins when FedEx assigns them a ratio much higher than a bumble shipper . I’m pretty sure corporate will make sure one Sanofi vaccine package is equivalent to about 50 Chewy cat food shipments .

 

[It will be fine]

A handful of 10:30 deliveries may indeed destroy your margins when FedEx assigns them a ratio much higher than a bumble shipper . I’m pretty sure corporate will make sure one Sanofi vaccine package is equivalent to about 50 Chewy cat food shipments .

I have no doubt this makes sense to you.

 

[MAKAVELI]

No. They won’t.

Contractors are leaving every day. More will continue to do so.

Not a hard concept to grasp.

You still don't get it. If you want priority freight, that comes with it. You think they are going to hand over their highest revenue source with no ability to hold contractors accountable for service?

 

[bacha29]

Will your drivers make service on packages at each corner of their route, then go back and make service on deferred freight in every corner, with businesses on time, make a 3rd or 4th circuit for pickups on time, and reattempt SR for not at home on first attempt? For what you pay them?

You have no clue what is required of express drivers, or an inkling of how to accomplish it. And keep the majority of the profits for yourself.

The only way I can see it done would be for the contractor to have a dedicated air box guy waiting there at the terminal to load up exclusively with air box and will be lucky to get out by 11AM. He'll be lucky to have 30 stops on board on a so called "heavy day" and damn lucky if he can get the day in under 300 miles. Mighty fine profit there alright. .

 

[Guitarman01]

I would think if FedEx was concerned about their brand and competition right now, they wouldn't be handing over the express side of the business to contractors. If express were to merge with ground, it would seem more likely they would take back their business from the contractors and merge their express couriers with ground stations.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I would think if FedEx was concerned about their brand and competition right now, they wouldn't be handing over the express side of the business to contractors. If express were to merge with ground, it would seem more likely they would take back their business from the contractors and merge their express couriers with ground stations.

They don't have a clue as what they are doing right now. They want their cake and eat it too. It's hard to believe the new board members can't see what the friend is going on.

 

[It will be fine]

I would think if FedEx was concerned about their brand and competition right now, they wouldn't be handing over the express side of the business to contractors. If express were to merge with ground, it would seem more likely they would take back their business from the contractors and merge their express couriers with ground stations.

They’re concerned about making money. Ground is cheaper. The capex to handle Ground volume within express would be massive. There’s no capex required to contract out express deliveries.