God is ruining the world

[newfie]

And Christianity isn’t the only religion to be disparaged in this lifetime.

Muslims fighting each other over interpretations of the Quran, Buddhists (Buddhists!!!) killing each other over interpretations of the Sutras, etc.

we may not be as far apart as you think we are. I've had those conversations with muslims and jews. they recognize many chapters of the Christian bible. but obviously disagree on some points and the role of Jesus Christ.

 

[BrownArmy]

Uh, baptists are protestant.
Just so you know.

Thanks, maybe I should have said Catholic?

I assume you got my point...

 

[MAKAVELI]

And you won't/can't until you set aside the things of this world. Look, I am a bad person. You can read some of my posts here to clarify that. Am I a good witness? NO! But I am working on it with HIS help. I have SLOWLY dropped things from my life but it's not an overnight deal. I am being worked on daily. I never knew I WAS being worked on until I found him. Nobody is perfect. Am I forgiven? ABSOLUTELY but most times don't feel like it. I am messed up man. Aren't we all?

You do realize that your life's transgressions and repentances transcend religions and religious beliefs?

 

[Eat Sleep Fish]

He’s got a miracle phone that keeps going even though it was at 1 percent 8 posts ago.

Thanks Jesus.

Ummm, an OUTLET perhaps?

 

[newfie]

Thanks, maybe I should have said Catholic?

I assume you got my point...

maybe ..not all Baptists are accepting of all protestant faiths.

 

[newfie]

You do realize that your life's transgressions and repentances transcend religions and religious beliefs?

are you preaching ?

 

[Eat Sleep Fish]

You do realize that your life's transgressions and repentances transcend religions and religious beliefs?

Only one matters though. And you can't trap me with the ole, "what about other religions then" line. Because those are all RELIGIONS.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

He’s got a miracle phone that keeps going even though it was at 1 percent 8 posts ago.

Thanks Jesus.

I just got home and plugged it in.
Anything else?

 

[MAKAVELI]

are you preaching ?

Nope. Just stating there is more than one way to salvation.

 

[Eat Sleep Fish]

Only one matters though. And you can't trap me with the ole, "what about other religions then" line. Because those are all RELIGIONS.

That's the whole point of this conversation. Christianity is not a RELIGION.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Only one matters though. And you can't trap me with the ole, "what about other religions then" line. Because those are all RELIGIONS.

Exactly. Christianity is not the sole way to salvation.

 

[newfie]

Nope. Just stating there is more than one way to salvation.

you don't get to choose

 

[Eat Sleep Fish]

Nope. Just stating there is more than one way to salvation.

Tell that to the Muslims who were expecting 70 virgins after they blew people up.

 

[vantexan]

Evidently they taught you wrong.

There are two issues here, the texts themselves, and when they were written.

As to the latter, Jesus was long dead before what you’re calling the New Testament was collated and codified.

Don’t forget, Paul’s version of Christianity is the one that ‘won the day’, so to speak (he was a killer salesman).

When Jesus was alive, there were dozens and dozens and dozens of competing versions of Christianity.

As to the former, if you enjoy the King James, more power to you.

The Church wasn't established until after Jesus died. The 4 gospels as well as Paul's epistles and other apostles' epistles were letters that circulated amongst believers and were eventually collected and organized into what is now the New Testament. While the Old Testament was written in Hebrew, the New Testament was written in koine Greek, the language of the common man in that region at that time. The KJV is just one of the many translations of the original texts.

 

[Eat Sleep Fish]

Exactly. Christianity is not the sole way to salvation.

Not exactly. Christianity is the ONLY way because it isn't a RELIGION.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Thanks, maybe I should have said Catholic?

I assume you got my point...

I understood it. It's true.
Sadly.
But there's problems wherever you have people.
Heck, it was written that Jesus cast demons out of a man that was in the synagogue.

Nothing's changed.

 

[BrownArmy]

we may not be as far apart as you think we are. I've had those conversations with muslims and jews. they recognize many chapters of the Christian bible. but obviously disagree on some points and the role of Jesus Christ.

K.

But, other non-Abrahamic faiths have completely different views about the fabric of reality.

Like I said, everyone who believes in their particular God does just that, and is convinced they're correct.

They all can't correct.

I'm glad you have faith in your particular God, I applaud you.

Just don't get too cocky, no one likes the equivalent of the JW's knocking on the door...

 

[MAKAVELI]

Tell that to the Muslims who were expecting 70 virgins after they blew people up.

What do Christains expect who blow up abortion clinics?

 

[BrownArmy]

The Church wasn't established until after Jesus died. The 4 gospels as well as Paul's epistles and other apostles' epistles were letters that circulated amongst believers and were eventually collected and organized into what is now the New Testament. While the Old Testament was written in Hebrew, the New Testament was written in koine Greek, the language of the common man in that region at that time. The KJV is just one of the many translations of the original texts.

You say 'The Church' wasn't established until after Jesus died.

There were thousands of Churches while Jesus lived.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

you don't get to choose

We all get to chose.
Those choices bring different results.