Greg Kerwoods Contract Review

[UPSide Brown]

So what exactly happens if the TA gets voted down? Do we actually go on strike, and for what exactly? What is the end goal? According to SOB, he and the negotiation team squeezed every last drop out of the UPS orange. With the media celebrating a historic contract that gives Teamsters all sorts of concessions like A/C, MLK and a decent raise, how is the public going to respond if the rank and file essentially mutiny against the IBT leadership and hit the pavement?

These are just questions and not accusations or judgements being levied at those who are either in support or are against.

I'm just trying to understand what will happen, although I doubt anything good.

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Not sure why, but this is probably my favorite user name on brown café.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

I just want to work full time inside. If my hub can offer year round sign up sheets for pre load and I can consistently work 40hours a week.

Why cant I be full time inside worker and receive the benefits associated with the position

so many people complain how part timers expect full time wages but dont seem to understand(or are willfully ignorant) ups full time inside positions are the gold at the end of the rainbow.

pay inequality is also an issue for me. It seems like we could still be in a situation where day1 hire at CACH makes more than 25 year veteran at different hub lol. Its not obvious to me that the GWI would boost the veterans pay over day 1 employees but Im not a math major. MRA hasnt been addressed to my satisfaction. I dont see how my hub could possibly staff peak even with the increased wages without offering an MRA again but we'll see I guess

same union same local same job different pay.

anyways came here to rant looks like this contract will get approved.

also shout out to the midwest for consistently getting terrible deals compared to our brothers in the southwest and west. I never understood why that happes but its amazing to see every contract lol

Lmao. By October you'll be loading my trailers

 

[ManInBrown]

No it’s an infrared monitor that tracks eye-movement, but it really doesn’t matter, because the language is very strong against the use of them in anyway other than training.

Does anyone know if this infrared monitor beeps and talks if it senses something? I will lose my mind. Let the company test me. I’ll pull over 100 times a day to take a sip of water. Air load, oh well too bad. I know someone mentioned the camera did. Does the sensor? And I remember someone on here saying they had the cameras in tractors in Texas. Is that just a weak local? How does UPS get away with doing that, without some type of meeting with the union? Was that in their local supplement that the company could install those on a whim?

 

[Ou812fu]

Does anyone know if this infrared monitor beeps and talks if it senses something? I will lose my mind. Let the company test me. I’ll pull over 100 times a day to take a sip of water. Air load, oh well too bad. I know someone mentioned the camera did. Does the sensor? And I remember someone on here saying they had the cameras in tractors in Texas. Is that just a weak local? How does UPS get away with doing that, without some type of meeting with the union? Was that in their local supplement that the company could install those on a whim?

The sensor is a camera. That is all horse that they are telling people it's a sensor. Look up the patent. Heck even new phones call the camera a sensor now..

 

[Thebrownblob]

Does anyone know if this infrared monitor beeps and talks if it senses something? I will lose my mind. Let the company test me. I’ll pull over 100 times a day to take a sip of water. Air load, oh well too bad. I know someone mentioned the camera did. Does the sensor? And I remember someone on here saying they had the cameras in tractors in Texas. Is that just a weak local? How does UPS get away with doing that, without some type of meeting with the union? Was that in their local supplement that the company could install those on a whim?

The sensor beeps and talks LOL

 

[Thebrownblob]

The sensor is a camera. That is all horse that they are telling people it's a sensor. Look up the patent. Heck even new phones call the camera a sensor now..

I don’t care what patent says. What difference would it make? They can’t use any of this stuff for anything. We’ve had the damn things for well over a year and nothing has come of them even before this better language. The amount of fear, mongering, and conspiracy theories about these useless devices is hysterical. Personally, I feel it’s pretty funny. They spent a whole bunch of money on something they can’t even use.

 

[Wally]

I don’t care what patent says. What difference would it make? They can’t use any of this stuff for anything. We’ve had the damn things for well over a year and nothing has come of them even before this better language. The amount of fear, mongering, and conspiracy theories about these useless devices is hysterical. Personally, I feel it’s pretty funny. They spent a whole bunch of money on something they can’t even use.

You know the company, give a inch-take a mile.

 

[Thebrownblob]

You know the company, give a inch-take a mile.

And with the new language, they didn’t give any inches. They actually took them away. And codified it was language. In regards to Inward devices. Forward facing cameras are not going anywhere and they are industry standard in most big companies for insurance purposes.

 

[ManInBrown]

The sensor beeps and talks LOL

The sensor beeps and talks? You know that for a fact?

 

[deeztier]

Angry why? Any particular reason?

davison's western webinar said the remaining .50 were diverted to wages. fine, as it was the #1 issue for the members. divert the .50 directly to the members that are not getting the dollar. might even be the same members asking for more $$ due to higher cost of living.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The sensor beeps and talks? You know that for a fact?

Yes, I’ve had it in my truck well over a year. Not one person disciplined, and after the first month or so no one even talks about it anymore. The only thing they’ve ever used it for is to prove innocence with a forward facing camera, in accidents and it’s actually saved every single driver that it’s been used for. Proved that all of them were innocent.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

$1500 is more than $1000.

Ours went up a total of $400 during the life of the last contract. Were was your outrage then about fairness?

You don't understand how our pension works. We start at $0 and it grows with each hourly contribution. We don't have a defined plan, and it shoots up $1,500 over the next five years. Your "fairness" argument is over apples and oranges.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

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Not sure why, but this is probably my favorite user name on brown café.

It's from a Will Ferrell SNL skit. The jeopardy skits were gold.

 

[Bubblehead]

It's from a Will Ferrell SNL skit. The jeopardy skits were gold.

Sean Connery

 

[Ou812fu]

And with the new language, they didn’t give any inches. They actually took them away. And codified it was language. In regards to Inward devices. Forward facing cameras are not going anywhere and they are industry standard in most big companies for insurance purposes.

The forward facing cameras will start to disappear once the average joe understands that these things are tracking everyone they have in view.

 

[mike feeder]

Soo, western pension fund, will get a one time 25cent increase over 5 years. We are the new 22.4

 

[542thruNthru]

$1500 is more than $1000.

Ours went up a total of $400 during the life of the last contract. Were was your outrage then about fairness?

You received the same economic package that everyone did in the NMA last contract. You got your $1 just like everyone else.

Your plan performing poorly is different then me taking your contributions from you.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The forward facing cameras will start to disappear once the average joe understands that these things are tracking everyone they have in view.

Most people give up their privacy freely with their smart phones. They’re not the least bit worried about being tracked obviously.

 

[542thruNthru]

Most people give up their privacy freely with their smart phones. They’re not the least bit worried about being tracked obviously.

I guess he doesn't realize that almost every company with commercial drivers has had these things your years. Out here every bus has them installed.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I guess he doesn't realize that almost every company with commercial drivers has had these things your years. Out here every bus has them installed.

Yep, and I stated so in earlier post.