Gun control advocates in Ferguson MO

[oldngray]

Here is Jesse making his typically stupid comments.

Jesse Jackson: “The Real Rioting Has Been the Police Rioting” in Ferguson

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...as-been-the-police-rioting-in-ferguson-video/

 

[soberups]

Pardon me, but Jackson and Sharpton didn't just show up on the scene in the mid 90's.

No, but they have cynically manipulated racial issues for personal gain in a manner that MLK would have found disgusting.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Ever hear of adrenaline? Ever hear of panic?

If the reports are true and the first shot was fired when the cop was flat on his back and getting beat down by a 295 lb man, is it possible that the cop might have subsequently panicked and spazzed his way thru a full magazine?

People...even cops...don't always make rational decisions under the influence of panic and adrenaline. That doesn't make them criminals or murderers. If the cop truly was was getting beat down and fired the first shot in justifiable fear for his life, then adrenaline and panic might very well be mitigating factors when judging the justification for the subsequent shots.

"Get the onto the sidewalk", what a great way to start an interaction with someone. Sounds like a real nice guy, I'm sure he didn't over react at all. Shooting someone when they have their hands above their head surrendering is murder I don't care how amped up the cop was.

 

[oldngray]

"Get the onto the sidewalk", what a great way to start an interaction with someone. Sounds like a real nice guy, I'm sure he didn't over react at all. Shooting someone from 30 feet away when they have their hands above their head surrendering is murder I don't care how amped up the cop was.

That still hasn't been proven to be what happened.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

That still hasn't been proven to be what happened.

There are multiple eyewitness accounts now that he was shot in the back running, and shot multiple times again after he turned and put his hands up. How many eyewitness accounts do you need?

 

[bbsam]

No, but they have cynically manipulated racial issues for personal gain in a manner that MLK would have found disgusting.

We'll never know. They may not be the best spokesmen, but they are the ones who get the spotlight for a serious and ongoing problem of inequality of opportunity and justice. You can hate the messenger, but that doesn't make the facts disappear.

 

[MAKAVELI]

That still hasn't been proven to be what happened.

And the cops story hasn't been proven either

 

[bbsam]

There are multiple eyewitness accounts now that he was shot in the back running, and shot multiple times again after he turned and put his hands up. How many eyewitness accounts do you need?

The one that says he was armed and shooting at the cop.

 

[oldngray]

There are multiple eyewitness accounts now that he was shot in the back running, and shot multiple times again after he turned and put his hands up. How many eyewitness accounts do you need?

Some of the eyewitness testimony is questionable. And witnesses will often see what they want to see instead of what actually happens. What will decide the case is forensic evidence which takes time.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Some of the eyewitness testimony is questionable. And witnesses will often see what they want to see instead of what actually happens. What will decide the case is forensic evidence which takes time.

So if the forensic evidence comes back and says he was shot in the back from a distance would you call that murder?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So if the forensic evidence comes back and says he was shot in the back from a distance would you call that murder?

Yes.


Resident know-it-all.

 

[oldngray]

So if the forensic evidence comes back and says he was shot in the back from a distance would you call that murder?

Yes, I probably would but again, that evidence hasn't been released yet.

 

[bbsam]

Ever hear of adrenaline? Ever hear of panic?

If the reports are true and the first shot was fired when the cop was flat on his back and getting beat down by a 295 lb man, is it possible that the cop might have subsequently panicked and spazzed his way thru a full magazine?

People...even cops...don't always make rational decisions under the influence of panic and adrenaline. That doesn't make them criminals or murderers. If the cop truly was was getting beat down and fired the first shot in justifiable fear for his life, then adrenaline and panic might very well be mitigating factors when judging the justification for the subsequent shots.

I hope for the for the officer's sake (if he is charged) that this is not going to be his legal defense strategy.

 

[bbsam]

Yes.


Resident know-it-all.

Even if the cop just "spazzed out"?

 

[oldngray]

The DOJ was upset about the convenience store video (that showed Brown assaulting the clerk and stealing the box of cigars) being released so more details may be slow to come.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Even if the cop just "spazzed out"?

Shooting someone in the back is the ultimate act of cowardice.


Resident know-it-all.

 

[bbsam]

Forensics? Wonder what happened to the dash cam.

 

[soberups]

So if the forensic evidence comes back and says he was shot in the back from a distance would you call that murder?

I would want to know what injuries, if any, the cop suffered. Did he have a concussion or a broken nose from being beat down by a 295 lb man? Did he panic? Was blood running down his face and blinding him? Did he take careful and methodical aim at a man with his hands raised, or did he spaz through an entire magazine while under the influence of adrenaline? Those are all mitigating factors that need to be taken into account before passing judgement.

 

[oldngray]

Dash cam wouldn't have been turned on even if the altercation took place in front instead of at side of the car.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

I hope for the for the officer's sake (if he is charged) that this is not going to be his legal defense strategy.

Someone here posted a radio caller who claimed to know the officer's family. If we take that person's story as valid, it seems the officer is going to claim Michael Brown turned and "bum rushed" him (after he was already shot in the back twice). I'm not sure if forensics can tell if he was doing that while being shot or not. Eye witness accounts might be important here.