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BigUnionGuy
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A best buy in Chicagoland 2012: Selling (s)crap metal at a gun turn in
By John Boch
President
Guns Save Life
Where else can you turn this
A photo of some of the guns we took up to Chicago, taken the day before our big adventure.
Into this?
Most of the $100 "gift cards" Guns Save Life brought back from Chicago on June 23rd, 2012.
Which will result in this:
Pictured are most of the youth participants at 2011's Darnall's NRA Youth Shooting Camp.
And this:
Pictured are the firearms winners at 2011's Darnall's NRA Youth Shooting Camp.
Guns Save Life is a very active, grassroots-level, regional civil rights organization famous for its pro-gun Burma-style highway signs along highways and interstates throughout Illinois and beyond.
By John Boch
President
Guns Save Life
Where else can you turn this
A photo of some of the guns we took up to Chicago, taken the day before our big adventure.
Into this?
Most of the $100 "gift cards" Guns Save Life brought back from Chicago on June 23rd, 2012.
Which will result in this:
Pictured are most of the youth participants at 2011's Darnall's NRA Youth Shooting Camp.
And this:
Pictured are the firearms winners at 2011's Darnall's NRA Youth Shooting Camp.
Guns Save Life is a very active, grassroots-level, regional civil rights organization famous for its pro-gun Burma-style highway signs along highways and interstates throughout Illinois and beyond.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
A best buy in Chicagoland 2012: Selling (s)crap metal at a gun turn in
By John Boch
President
Guns Save Life
Where else can you turn this
A photo of some of the guns we took up to Chicago, taken the day before our big adventure.
Into this?
Most of the $100 "gift cards" Guns Save Life brought back from Chicago on June 23rd, 2012.
Which will result in this:
Pictured are most of the youth participants at 2011's Darnall's NRA Youth Shooting Camp.
And this:
Pictured are the firearms winners at 2011's Darnall's NRA Youth Shooting Camp.
Guns Save Life is a very active, grassroots-level, regional civil rights organization famous for its pro-gun Burma-style highway signs along highways and interstates throughout Illinois and beyond.
Every one of the turn-in handguns in the photo is a piece of crap. I'm seeing Lorcins, Ravens, Jennings, and a bunch of Iver Johnson and High Standard break-open revolvers. You would be lucky to get $10 apiece for them at a pawnshop. The long guns arent much better, although I would love to have that Moisin Nagant M44 for my collection.
Every once in awhile they have a gun buyback up here in Portland, and lately there have been dealers and collectors who show up and stand outside with cash making people better offers on some of the guns that they are bringing in. Usually, about 99% of what gets brought in is junk that isnt even worth a $50 gift card, but once in awhile there will be people who dont know any better that show up with guns that are worth saving. Its truly a shame to see rare guns with authentic historic value being "turned in" for a $50 card and then melted down into scrap.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I'm confused---if the local police are the one's conducting the gun buyback why in the world would they allow dealers and collectors to buy the guns instead? I understand that those guns with historical value should not be melted down but couldn't those transactions be conducted after the fact by the police in a controlled environment?
Maybe we should have the police do actual police work instead of running gun buybacks.
The dealers and collectors are just being smart businessmen by conducting LEGAL transactions before the police.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Our community does expired prescription drug collections occasionally and one of the drop off locations is our local police station. Would you consider dealers and collectors approaching people in line to be conducting LEGAL transactions?
Would you prefer gun buybacks be held at the mall?
But that's what I'm saying. You don't think there's illegal purchases of guns being made right outside the police dept front door, do you?
It is legal for people to buy guns from other people.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
And the "Onus" is on the person selling the firearm, to perform their due diligence.
By asking the buyer if they are "legally allowed" to own firearms and if it's a handgun, are they over 21 and a resident of the state they are in.
Good eye Sober, I had to go back and look to see the Moisin Nagant.... Looks like the bolt was removed.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
It is a violation of Federal law for a person to sell or provide a prescription medication to another person.
It is not a violation of Federal law for a person to sell or provide a gun to another person, as long as the gun itself is not stolen and both parties are not convicted felons or are otherwise barred from legally owning a gun.
The gun buybacks are not held at a police station, around here they are held at Memorial Coliseum or at the convention center. Where, ironically enough, gun shows are also sometimes held.
In the final analysis, what these buybacks do accomplish is to get junk guns (Lorcins, Ravens, Jennings, and other potmetal el cheapos) that are unsafe to fire or otherwise unsellable out of circulation. I am a member of a local online forum for gun collectors and enthusiasts who buy, sell and trade guns amongst ourselves, and these guns that would otherwise be worthless now have a standard value of about $50 since they can always be exchanged for that amount at the next buyback. These clunkers often wind up being "add ins" or "trade bait" in lieu of cash as part of another transaction.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Pretty much every gun show I ever go to has a table chock full of spare Moisin bolts, AK mags, and assorted Eastern Bloc gun parts for sale dirt cheap. The Russkies made a few trillion of those things beween 1891 and the 1950's. Big 5 sports always has surplus Moisins for sale for $120 or so.
Thousands of years from now, archaeologists in Eastern Europe may very well be digging up caches of rusty but otherwise perfectly serviceable Moisins, as well as those hermetically sealed "spam cans" of 7.62x54 ammo that got churned out by the billions during the Russian Revolution, WW1, WW2, and the Cold War. Moisins are like cockroaches; you cant kill them and they will be around until the end of time. They were designed by peasants to be used by peasants in the mud and snow and they are basically indestructible.
Babagounj
Strength through joy
Finally, a feel-good story out of moonbattery-addled Chicago. Recently the city collected 5,500 guns during a buyback program, handing out $100 MasterCard gift cards for every gun ($10 for BB guns and replicas)…
Todd Vandermyde, the NRA’s chief lobbyist in Illinois, … said he was told one suburban gun dealer imported junk rifles for less than $50 each and received $100 gift cards for each of them.
Con “artists” have turned in homemade zip guns to get the taxpayer cash.
Sixty of the guns and several BB guns were turned in by the Champaign-based Guns Save Life. In return, the group received $6,240 in gift cards, said John Boch, president of the group. …
“This was rusty, non-firing junk that we turned in,” Boch said. “We are redirecting funds from people who would work against the private ownership of firearms to help introduce the next generation to shooting safely and responsibly.”
Moonbattery
Todd Vandermyde, the NRA’s chief lobbyist in Illinois, … said he was told one suburban gun dealer imported junk rifles for less than $50 each and received $100 gift cards for each of them.
Con “artists” have turned in homemade zip guns to get the taxpayer cash.
Sixty of the guns and several BB guns were turned in by the Champaign-based Guns Save Life. In return, the group received $6,240 in gift cards, said John Boch, president of the group. …
“This was rusty, non-firing junk that we turned in,” Boch said. “We are redirecting funds from people who would work against the private ownership of firearms to help introduce the next generation to shooting safely and responsibly.”
Moonbattery
Boch said he doesn’t think the crooks who have pushed the number of Chicago’s homicides to 38 percent over last year’s total are the ones handing over their weapons.
“If you were a criminal, you would be a fool to go there with the police presence,” he said. “What criminal would turn in the tool he uses to do his trade for a $100 card?”
As for the possibility of the program accomplishing anything other than to waste taxpayer money.
“If you were a criminal, you would be a fool to go there with the police presence,” he said. “What criminal would turn in the tool he uses to do his trade for a $100 card?”
As for the possibility of the program accomplishing anything other than to waste taxpayer money.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
This makes me feel "warm and fuzzy"....
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Yikes!
klein
Für Meno :)
There ya go, now that's a lesson for all of you gun owners , which is buy a bullet proof vest to go along with your hobby !
You would have stood little chances against this guy without one, - since he was protected himself !
Deadly mass shooting at U.S. 'Batman' screening
At least 14 people are dead and 50 injured after a gunman opened fire on a packed Colorado theatre. Suspect arrested
You would have stood little chances against this guy without one, - since he was protected himself !
Deadly mass shooting at U.S. 'Batman' screening
At least 14 people are dead and 50 injured after a gunman opened fire on a packed Colorado theatre. Suspect arrested
There ya go, now that's a lesson for all of you gun owners , which is buy a bullet proof vest to go along with your hobby !
You would have stood little chances against this guy without one, - since he was protected himself !
Deadly mass shooting at U.S. 'Batman' screening
At least 14 people are dead and 50 injured after a gunman opened fire on a packed Colorado theatre. Suspect arrested
I can wait for the GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE excuses to start flying, except for BRIAN TERRY in which A GUN KILLED HIM.
This country is FULL of whacko gun owners, who are allowed to own guns, while having mental problems, then when "their" world goes upside down, they grab their 2nd amendment rights and go to a movie theatre and kill 14 people.
If only the people in the theatre we also armed, there could have been a major shootout in the dark and 100's killed. Then the shooter would have been killed also.
That would have solved the problem.
FREAKIN NUTJOBS.
Peace
TOS
Babagounj
Strength through joy
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Technically, he began breaking laws when he concealed his weapons with criminal intent and brought them to the theater. I highly doubt the man had undergone the requisite training and background check that is required to obtain a concealed weapon permit,
This was a tragedy, and obviously a premeditated and well planned terrorist attack. He wore body armor, he brought smoke bombs, he brought multiple weapons. There will, of course, be the usual knee- jerk reaction for more "feel good" laws and limits on our 2nd Amendment rights, but additional laws will never stop this sort of premeditated attack by a lunatic.
Care to suggest how to better enforce the current gun laws so that when he technically breaks the law by bringing in the weapons with criminal intent we can stop him before the carnage?
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