go look it up i dunno!
you can even tell me how much UPS profits off of you every hour, yet you talk about "good deals" all the time.
I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism
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you can even tell me how much UPS profits off of you every hour, yet you talk about "good deals" all the time.
El Correcto
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El Correcto
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So they are not allow to profit?
yes i felt this way with obama; he was awful.
hey i agree with you, our information systems need a major overhaul. 5 corporations control 90% of all news in america. its news by the rich and it has an agenda which no surprise ultimately benefits them. but yea thats the problem with representative democracy is too much corruption, and its too centralized. ditto for capitalism.
they already to participatory budgets in some parts of america.
im asking him how much do they profit off of your labor every hour.
El Correcto
god is dead
I’m not sure thankfully I don’t worry about the pockets of other men. I just look after mine and make sure I’m compensated and needs met.
1.5 trillion a year. defense spending doesnt include classified spending.
This doesn’t include all the welfare spending states do.
you should look into that
El Correcto
god is dead
Ricky you can always find things to criticize in a society. Some of the things you talk about are definitely true. It’s just a way of thinking about it you get hung up on all the bad and don’t give the good any merits. I agree with you life is unfair for a lot of people, but the amount of people that have been pushed into prosperity thanks to the best working system we could create, capitalism and a democratic republic. For all I know technology might truly lead the way to this utopia liberals want and our current system will need to change. Now isn’t the time though.
El Correcto
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I’m good. I live better than kings of old, in a society they could of never invisioned.you should look into that
our current society and feudalism are having more and more in common by the day
yea i see your point too, but im saying we can / must do better. capitalism is destroying the planet. at least we could have an authoritarian economic system which is efficient.
coops are old ideas. nothing new.
SolidWoodPanel
Probably the Greatest American Alive
See, by my estimation, people really aren't much better off or much worse than they were 1000 years ago. What's got you so squeamish? North Korea, Islamic Extremism, Shootings in America? It's all been done before. My grandmother, RIP, used to say, "Oh, the world's going to hell." And I'd say, "No, you're just watching too much TV. Pretty sure the mafia was shooting people in the streets all the daily. There were a dozen or airplane hijackings in the 50s and 60s. Nazis ravaged Europe, the Soviets were sending Cuba Missiles. Charles Manson is notoriously charismatic. There's a sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll era, followed by more war, more drugs, a war on drugs, AIDS...History is nothing more than a record of death, destruction, and decay. And we celebrate it. All of us.
You ever heard the joke about Good Friday? You think it was good for Jesus. You think he was yelling, "Thank God it's Friday," as nails were being driven into him
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Try comprehending what you comment on. Bring some knowledge to the table.
Zetkin’s analysis, eerily prophetic and reprinted in the book “Fighting Fascism: How to Struggle and How to Win,” edited by John Riddell and Mike Taber, highlights the principal features of emerging fascist movements. Fascism, Zetkin warned, arises when capitalism enters a period of crisis and breakdown of the democratic institutions that once offered the possibility of reform and protection from an uninhibited assault by the capitalist class. The unchecked capitalist assault pushes the middle class, the bulwark of a capitalist democracy, into the working class and often poverty. It strips workers of all protection and depresses wages. The longer the economic and social stagnation persists, the more attractive fascism becomes. Zetkin would have warned us that Donald Trump is not the danger; the danger is the growing social and economic inequality that concentrates wealth in the hands of an oligarchic elite and degrades the lives of citizens.
The collapse of a capitalist democracy, she wrote, leaves those in the working class disempowered. Their pleas go unheard. Reforms to address their suffering are cosmetic and useless. Their anger is written off as irrational or racist. A bankrupt liberal class, which formerly made incremental and piecemeal reform possible, ameliorating the worst excesses of capitalism, mouths empty slogans about social justice and the rights of workers while selling them out to capitalist elites. The hypocrisy of the liberal class evokes not only a disdain for it but a hatred for the liberal, democratic values it supposedly espouses. The “virtues” of democracy become distasteful. The crude taunts, threats and insults hurled by fascists at the liberal establishment express a legitimate anger among a betrayed working class. Trump’s coarseness, for this reason, resonates with many pushed to the margins of society. Demoralized workers, who also find no defense of their interests by establishment intellectuals, the press and academics, lose faith in the political process. Realizing the liberal elites have lied to them, they are open to bizarre and fantastic conspiracy theories. Fascists direct this rage and yearning for revenge against an array of phantom enemies, most of them scapegoated minorities. - hedges
The collapse of a capitalist democracy, she wrote, leaves those in the working class disempowered. Their pleas go unheard. Reforms to address their suffering are cosmetic and useless. Their anger is written off as irrational or racist. A bankrupt liberal class, which formerly made incremental and piecemeal reform possible, ameliorating the worst excesses of capitalism, mouths empty slogans about social justice and the rights of workers while selling them out to capitalist elites. The hypocrisy of the liberal class evokes not only a disdain for it but a hatred for the liberal, democratic values it supposedly espouses. The “virtues” of democracy become distasteful. The crude taunts, threats and insults hurled by fascists at the liberal establishment express a legitimate anger among a betrayed working class. Trump’s coarseness, for this reason, resonates with many pushed to the margins of society. Demoralized workers, who also find no defense of their interests by establishment intellectuals, the press and academics, lose faith in the political process. Realizing the liberal elites have lied to them, they are open to bizarre and fantastic conspiracy theories. Fascists direct this rage and yearning for revenge against an array of phantom enemies, most of them scapegoated minorities. - hedges
SolidWoodPanel
Probably the Greatest American Alive
I knew you were a Trumpophile!
america was going down hill long before he came to power; including of course democrats.
SolidWoodPanel
Probably the Greatest American Alive
For blue collar workers for sure. But the world as a whole is dealing with a social-technological evolution that kind of throws a wrench into the wheel of stability. Kind of how Gutenberg's printing press throw Europe into upheaval as access to literature and information dissemination spread. The ideas put into the minds of the formerly ignorant and obedient suddenly started rising up and overthrowing their rulers.
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