Is anyone following Wisconsin?

[island1fox]

Take away all the perks of your elected officials first. Take away all the public subsidies to the corporations in that state (aka tax cuts aka corp welfare) first. The wealthiest have seen their taxes lowered from 90% to 70% to 28% to 31% to 39.6% to 35% over the past 50 yrs. Time they start kicking in a bit more, why squeeze the middle class!

804,
You sound like a real fair guy.
If you make 50,000 the fed takes eight to ten thousand.
If you make 250,000 the fed takes eighty eight thousand dollars.

One pays 10,000 dollars ---the guy who does not pay enough pays 88,000 dollars-----yeah you are right they do not pay their FAIR share ???????

As a true union guy would say SHAME ON YOU !!!

 

[island1fox]

Thank-you for the numbers. Nowhere near the 70% rate. If deficits are the enemy, slightly higher rates might be a good idea. "Oh but it will kill jobs!" Private sector is sitting on it's money. If they wanted to create jobs, they could and would. Has nothing to do with tax rates.

bbsam,
You are smarter than that . Federal tax 35% if that was all --you might have a point.
Throw in state tax, city tax, property tax,capital gain tax, death tax, gasoline tax,cigarette tax, beer tax, liquor tax, food tax, clothes tax,sales tax, car license tax, marriage license tax, dog license tax, tolls, propane tax, electric tax, boat license tax, fishing license tax, hunting license tax, liquor tax, hotel tax, etc, etc.
Government takes WAY too much of our money ----you say not close to 70% ????
No wonder so many people do not work and want to live on the "dole"
50,000 dollar worker pays fed tax of ten thousand.
250,000 dollar worker pays eighty eight thousand !!!
Why get a higher education ? Why become a doctor or lawyer ?? To get robbed by the federal government ?? So that the Politicians can live like Royalty ??? Come on ---Time for some serious cutting of spending !!!

 

[brownmonster]

bbsam,
You are smarter than that . Federal tax 35% if that was all --you might have a point.
Throw in state tax, city tax, property tax,capital gain tax, death tax, gasoline tax,cigarette tax, beer tax, liquor tax, food tax, clothes tax,sales tax, car license tax, marriage license tax, dog license tax, tolls, propane tax, electric tax, boat license tax, fishing license tax, hunting license tax, liquor tax, hotel tax, etc, etc.
Government takes WAY too much of our money ----you say not close to 70% ????
No wonder so many people do not work and want to live on the "dole"
50,000 dollar worker pays fed tax of ten thousand.
250,000 dollar worker pays eighty eight thousand !!!
Why get a higher education ? Why become a doctor or lawyer ?? To get robbed by the federal government ?? So that the Politicians can live like Royalty ??? Come on ---Time for some serious cutting of spending !!!

My AGI was $116,000 last year and we paid $12,000 in federal taxes. I'm pretty sure a guy making $250,000 paid no where near $88,000.

 

[brownmonster]

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All your cartoons are cute but the fact is WI Republicans said they would pass this budget bill without debate even if the Democrats were there. You call that democracy? Their only choice to stop the budget bill is to stay away. I remember my wife saying when Walker was running for governor. I wouldn't vote for that weasel. How prophetic.

 

[island1fox]

My AGI was $116,000 last year and we paid $12,000 in federal taxes. I'm pretty sure a guy making $250,000 paid no where near $88,000.

I will take it for granted that your taxes were prepared lawfully.
Certainly depends on deductions and dependents etc. So lets be fair ---REMOVE all deductions for all--flat 15% tax
YOU make 116000 --you pay 17,400
The guy who makes 250,000 pays 37,500 --not fair to you ???

Success in America should never be stifled or punished --doctors, lawyers ,professionals etc

 

[804brown]

bbsam,
You are smarter than that . Federal tax 35% if that was all --you might have a point.
Throw in state tax, city tax, property tax,capital gain tax, death tax, gasoline tax,cigarette tax, beer tax, liquor tax, food tax, clothes tax,sales tax, car license tax, marriage license tax, dog license tax, tolls, propane tax, electric tax, boat license tax, fishing license tax, hunting license tax, liquor tax, hotel tax, etc, etc.
Government takes WAY too much of our money ----you say not close to 70% ????
No wonder so many people do not work and want to live on the "dole"
50,000 dollar worker pays fed tax of ten thousand.
250,000 dollar worker pays eighty eight thousand !!!
Why get a higher education ? Why become a doctor or lawyer ?? To get robbed by the federal government ?? So that the Politicians can live like Royalty ??? Come on ---Time for some serious cutting of spending !!!

It is not that we are overspending. It is that the economy has slowed and there are not taxes being paid. You want ot save $$ start with cutting the military and the huge corporate tax breaks and the tax cuts for the wealthy first. You mention all those taxes. You want services you have to pay for it. Pave your own streets or put out your own fires. Why are republicans going after working class people or trying to cut home heating oil subsidies to the poor!! That is shameful, but par for the course when you have taken over by the tea party fools!

 

[804brown]

My AGI was $116,000 last year and we paid $12,000 in federal taxes. I'm pretty sure a guy making $250,000 paid no where near $88,000.

Absolutely right. The wealthy pay alot on paper before they get their tax accountant to find "ways" to pay less. Why else would Warren Buffet pay at a lower rate than his own secretary!!

 

[bbsam]

bbsam,
You are smarter than that . Federal tax 35% if that was all --you might have a point.
Throw in state tax, city tax, property tax,capital gain tax, death tax, gasoline tax,cigarette tax, beer tax, liquor tax, food tax, clothes tax,sales tax, car license tax, marriage license tax, dog license tax, tolls, propane tax, electric tax, boat license tax, fishing license tax, hunting license tax, liquor tax, hotel tax, etc, etc.
Government takes WAY too much of our money ----you say not close to 70% ????
No wonder so many people do not work and want to live on the "dole"
50,000 dollar worker pays fed tax of ten thousand.
250,000 dollar worker pays eighty eight thousand !!!
Why get a higher education ? Why become a doctor or lawyer ?? To get robbed by the federal government ?? So that the Politicians can live like Royalty ??? Come on ---Time for some serious cutting of spending !!!

So you are saying that people are staying away from the really high paying jobs like doctors and lawyers and investment bankers because they don't want to pay a high 35% tax. C'mon Island. You're smarter than that. I don't think there's a person alive that would turn down 250,000/year to "live on the dole". I don't think you really believe it either.

 

[804brown]

I will take it for granted that your taxes were prepared lawfully.
Certainly depends on deductions and dependents etc. So lets be fair ---REMOVE all deductions for all--flat 15% tax
YOU make 116000 --you pay 17,400
The guy who makes 250,000 pays 37,500 --not fair to you ???

Success in America should never be stifled or punished --doctors, lawyers ,professionals etc

Flat tax works for the poor and the wealthy. The rest of us get screwed, that's why people like Steve Forbes has been pushing this snake oil!!

 

[hubrat]

 

[Returntosender]

Walker is on another level. IMO reminds of me a young Saddam. If anyone threaten/attack Saddam and family. Saddam and family would attack the enitre village where attackers came from. The DEMS skip town. Walker, I'm gonna axe 1500 hundred jobs if you guys don't come back. If they do come back Walker is going to axe them any ways. Lose-Lose. I would'nt be surprised if Walker starts taking political prisioners.

 

[Lue C Fur]

http://www.hyscience.com/liberal-democrat-brain.jpg

 

[moreluck]

 

[island1fox]

Absolutely right. The wealthy pay alot on paper before they get their tax accountant to find "ways" to pay less. Why else would Warren Buffet pay at a lower rate than his own secretary!!

804,
You seem to live in a very narrow world.
The dopey Billionaire YOU QUOTE -BUFFET-does not give himself an income. His cash flow comes from muni bonds,treauries,dividends,capital gains etc.
Some with no tax ,others at different rates.
Liberal Gates senior in Washington state made me laugh recently. While his son has given him millions of dollars-he does not have an "income"
He sided with the libs and wanted to put a state tax on income for hard working people in the State that would not apply to them.
Everyone wants someone elst to pay ?? I say no outrage toward BROWNMONSTER --how ever he pulls it off he pays LESS than 10% --way less than what I pay --Does He pay his share ???
Flat Tax for all !!!

 

[island1fox]

It is not that we are overspending. It is that the economy has slowed and there are not taxes being paid. You want ot save $$ start with cutting the military and the huge corporate tax breaks and the tax cuts for the wealthy first. You mention all those taxes. You want services you have to pay for it. Pave your own streets or put out your own fires. Why are republicans going after working class people or trying to cut home heating oil subsidies to the poor!! That is shameful, but par for the course when you have taken over by the tea party fools!

804,
I see how up to speed you are --Obama in his recommended cuts got rid of the heating oil entitlement also it Obama is the Boss of all Federal Public Workers who have very limited Collective bargaining rights --alot less than Wisconsin --collective bargaining rights taken away by the great Democrat JIMMY CARTER !!!

 

[island1fox]

bbsam,
Do not hear too many people staying away at 35% -even though that is alot of money ---it is so many liberal fools yelling "HIGHER--HIGHER--HIGHER--always on someone else --not them -
You never hear about what would be the limit !!! How much is FAIR to take ???? 40% --50% --60% 100% ??????

Brownmonster seems to think it is fair for him to pay less than 10 % He is making well over 100 grand --Fair ???
Always good for the "bogey man" rich --not me !!

 

[1timepu]

Not the Flat Tax it's the Fair Tax

 

[1timepu]

Absolutely right. The wealthy pay alot on paper before they get their tax accountant to find "ways" to pay less. Why else would Warren Buffet pay at a lower rate than his own secretary!!

Great right from the Socialist playbook.........Social Justice

 

[island1fox]

Not the Flat Tax it's the Fair Tax

1timepu,

Thank you . I stand corrected. I also firmly agree .

 

[island1fox]

Great right from the Socialist playbook.........Social Justice

1time pickup,
As the great Reverand AL has stated many ,many times: "NOT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY --I WANT EQUAL RESULTS " ??????

Then the Socialist cannot show us in History in any country where this has worked.
The unions are in real danger of linking with the socialist radicals --they know not what they are asking for !!!!