Wontmake9.5
My job is fun
Probably
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Emergency Conditions
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Move on up! That's what hotels, clinics and offices are paying receptionists all over town here...
Wontmake9.5
My job is fun
Bubblehead
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Part-time vs Full-time is not a "tier", it's a radically different classification by design.Are you stupid or something? Did you not read my post? 25-hour starting wage here for seasonals + new hires. I make 25 an hour even though I've been here well north of a decade, less than seasonals + new hires when they do their attendance bonus union-busting bull. 25 an hour part-time is not a liveable wage. In regards to full-time? Mind your business. If justice existed it would be the same work for the same pay but the spineless allowed the two-tier division to creep in decades ago. I can make 40 an hour part-time and it won't be a liveable wage, don't you worry mester.
Seeking a "livable wage" from a part-time job may not be realistic, but in this very unique circumstance, getting full-time benefits is.
So really, why aren't you interested in going full-time at UPS?
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
I didn't realize that was Sting singing in the background. He just happened to be in the studio at the time.
The Range
In too deep
Thebrownblob
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Is that a thing?
evilleace
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That's why I said maybe. I don't think they need it but honestly in my building they never show up. I thought a $25 top rate was more than generous and should be enough to get them to show up.
Wontmake9.5
My job is fun
Funny story.. I got banned from the Facebook contract group lmao. So much for sticking together geez
I think that's the big difference right now is a lot of these part-timers are not looking for a full-time career here
evilleace
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Honestly let them walk I'd rather have a late 20s early 30s PT with a family who needs the insurance and would show up everyday for it.
We need to sell the benefits to the potential workforce not the wage.
Bubblehead
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Maybe it was posts that started out like these that got you where you are at?
evilleace
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And that's fine, $25 is more than fair to do the job with full benefits. If you do want more a FT spot will be available eventually.
Emergency Conditions
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The problem is the way we're structured currently we need far too many PTers to rely on that type of worker so unfortunately we have to fill the ranks with people who just need a job and don't care about the benefits because they're not planning on sticking around for long.
The Range
In too deep
What do you suggest? Decade+ part-timers make the same or less than seasonals and new hires, depending on how generous UPS is feeling with MRA and attendance bonuses. Good for them. They also make substantially more than new full-timers. "Radically different classification by design" seems like an excellent way to sew division.
Bubblehead
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Do you have any idea what UPS pays weekly on your behalf for H&W, pension, in addition to your annual vacation bank, paid holidays, etc?
....and again really, why haven't you gone full-time at UPS in the past decade plus?
I have a point here if you will play along (if your reasoning isn't too personal).
The Range
In too deep
That's none of your business, with all due respect. Part-time ain't a crime. Secondly, you can divert attention to benefits, which I am fully aware of but it doesn't answer the questions "Why do seasonals and new hires make more than someone with e.g. 15 years" "Why does UPS pay $10/hour more post-MRA than what my union negotiated"? I think you are someone to be respected here if memory serves me correctly. With that said, I am glad you aren't negotiating for us. We ate those
sandwiches "but the benefits" for far too long under Mr. HOFFA. The attendance bonus was completely arbitrary. There were new hires with a year getting MRA, benefits, attendance bonus, and who knows what other goodies. Great for them, woe for your brothers and sisters that have time in.
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Bubblehead
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Why haven't you gone full-time at UPS in the past decade plus?
I have a point here (seriously) if you will play along?
My apologies if your reasoning is personally sensitive.
evilleace
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Because those people are needed for a short time so it's hard to hire that way. Also they DON'T get benefits therefore they can make a little more. Simple fix would be no permanent PT makes less than a seasonal.
