My 30 day probation period ended today, now what?
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snarts
Well-Known Member
What does passing my probationary period mean exactly? Does it mean I'm guaranteed a permanent spot? Could I not still be sent home/fired the next 10 days before I make book if they wanted to?
J
jibbs
Guest
Passing probation means you're now a permanent employee, yes, but even permanent employees can be fired or sent home. The biggest difference is now you can actually bitch about it and actively try to make changes without having to worry about your employment status being retaliated upon. Probationary employees basically need to shut up and do what they're told, because they can be let go for damn near any reason while they're on probation. Now that you've made it through that period, just don't do anything illegal on the clock and you likely have a job for life... if you want it.
Side-note, though-- some new workers get tripped up on the difference between 30 days and 30 working days. It may vary from region to region, but where I'm at it took 30 working days to get through probation, which was pretty much like a month and a half of work instead of an even month.
Just pointing that out in case nobody had for you before.
Side-note, though-- some new workers get tripped up on the difference between 30 days and 30 working days. It may vary from region to region, but where I'm at it took 30 working days to get through probation, which was pretty much like a month and a half of work instead of an even month.
Just pointing that out in case nobody had for you before.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Wouldn't 40 days to make the union mean the probation period is also 40 days? 30 working days and then waiting 10 more days to join doesn't really make sense.
hondo
promoted to mediocrity
Where to start,,,,
'Probationary period', 'making book', 'joining the union', 'attaining seniority' all pretty much mean the same thing. From what you've posted, it takes 40 working days, or 8 weeks if you work every day. Days spent in orientation/training may or may not count. I have a feeling you are still 10 days (or more) short of that. So yes, you could still be sent home/fired if they want.
There may or may not be any acknowledgement when you do make it. Although you mentioned elsewhere that you were listed as 'trainee' on a list, that should be dropped.
But once you do make it, yes, you are guaranteed a permanent spot. You should have your daily start times posted in advance (see your union contract for specifics). A guaranteed minimum hours of work daily (usually 3.5 hours). The list of what they can fire you for without progressive discipline (verbal/written warnings, suspension) is listed in the union contract. Things like fighting, stealing, being under the influence (or possessing) drugs/alcohol on company property.
You start earning vacation time and credit towards a pension (see union contract for requirements-typically a minimum # of hours worked in a year). If you get called for jury duty or have a death in your immediate family, you get paid time off for that. Also, bidding rights for things like extra work, different part time (or full time) jobs. There may be a credit union you can join (typically better for your banking needs than a bank or savings & loan). Also can start saving money in a 401k (sorry, no employer match).
Unfortunately there are other benefits you have to wait one year for, such as: paid holidays/personal days/sick days, medical/dental/vision insurance.
You also become eligible to participate in the union meetings and vote on things like electing people to union positions, and the next contract when it comes up for renegotiation.
'Probationary period', 'making book', 'joining the union', 'attaining seniority' all pretty much mean the same thing. From what you've posted, it takes 40 working days, or 8 weeks if you work every day. Days spent in orientation/training may or may not count. I have a feeling you are still 10 days (or more) short of that. So yes, you could still be sent home/fired if they want.
There may or may not be any acknowledgement when you do make it. Although you mentioned elsewhere that you were listed as 'trainee' on a list, that should be dropped.
But once you do make it, yes, you are guaranteed a permanent spot. You should have your daily start times posted in advance (see your union contract for specifics). A guaranteed minimum hours of work daily (usually 3.5 hours). The list of what they can fire you for without progressive discipline (verbal/written warnings, suspension) is listed in the union contract. Things like fighting, stealing, being under the influence (or possessing) drugs/alcohol on company property.
You start earning vacation time and credit towards a pension (see union contract for requirements-typically a minimum # of hours worked in a year). If you get called for jury duty or have a death in your immediate family, you get paid time off for that. Also, bidding rights for things like extra work, different part time (or full time) jobs. There may be a credit union you can join (typically better for your banking needs than a bank or savings & loan). Also can start saving money in a 401k (sorry, no employer match).
Unfortunately there are other benefits you have to wait one year for, such as: paid holidays/personal days/sick days, medical/dental/vision insurance.
You also become eligible to participate in the union meetings and vote on things like electing people to union positions, and the next contract when it comes up for renegotiation.
snarts
Well-Known Member
I see, thanks for the informative response
By The Book
Well-Known Member
Some of the benefits that you mentioned that the employee will have to wait a year for do vary by contract, and state law for time off.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
hondo
promoted to mediocrity
Concessions?
They did buy us beers for the challenge of the 80's meetings. Very high participation rate of drivers.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
I remember those
Remember when you sup you to ride with you a few times a year and buy you lunch?
Gave you a descent day and a better attitude.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Draining of paycheck.
On the positive side, it's good mental preparation for a future divorce settlement.
Cementups
Box Monkey
The 90's and the pussification of America made them get rid of that.
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