NFL Boycott - Will FedEx Peak be easier...in current events?
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up.....I think we're getting very close to where the GOP seeing the impending disaster 13 months from now will begin the move to get Trump out of the White House and as a first step in that direction will quietly give Robert Mueller free rein and all the resources he needs to get to the truth.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
I wonder what the hell he is up to.
Most of his histrionics turn out to be distractions.
Hmmmm. What could he want to distract from?
Odd though. He's got an awful lot of people truly believing the crap he's spoon feeding them. Soon it will be that the government is evil and going after mutibillion dollar companies and families for taxes just so stupid little Johnny can read.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
I believed you to be more intelligent than your post.
If kneeling, fisting, or recusing oneself isn't in and of itself inflammatory, then there would be no mass reaction and revulsion to it. And thereby it would be an empty action, devoid of point, ineffective.
And BTW, Trump's message was to the owners. You can't disobey a recommendation that doesn't include you(players). Their disobedience was to the NFL's own rule and policy book, which failed to enforce and punish the transgressors. By default and collusion, the entire NFL insulted America.
MAKAVELI
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There's no rule or policy stating they have to stand for the anthem......
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What The Hawk?
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Very very very, small center. Not much volume to begin with. Loloh you must’ve been doing it wrong
MAKAVELI
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This latest Twitter rage is only going to bring more attention to his taxes and the fact he has not released them yet.
The "mass revulsion" is exactly the point. There was none before Trump defined the protests as disrespectful.
And are you for real?! Kneeling, fisting (lol), recusing is inflammatory? What's left? Compliance? Stupid sheep.
Luckily in America, you don't have to watch the NFL. You don't have to go to games or buy their merchandise. You don't have to watch players brutally maim each other or make incredible plays. You don't have to watch wild upsets or unbelievable comebacks. You don't have to watch players "disrespect" the flag or the country or the armed services. Hell, you don't even have to listen to the president makes big deal out of something you didn't pay any attention to a year ago.
Luckily in America you can if you want to. But you don't have to.
I believe Kaepernick was saying the U.S. is an unjust nation. If the U.S. was providing a substantial welfare package, then took that away from folks who had gotten used to it so therefore didn't prepare themselves to compete in the workplace(and that applies to all races), and thus life became a good deal harsher, then I can see why they're unhappy. And if the government was to suddenly run up the debt to unsustainable levels thus endangering their ability to receive anything, better push back and play on white guilt. Kaepernick is on record praising Fidel Castro. The many college professors who are influencing so many of tomorrow's leaders to rant and rave against conservatives are avowed Socialists if not Marxists. What better way to end the hardship of those who are used to handouts then to convert from Capitalism to Socialism? We'll all be equal then and no one will do without. Capitalism is flawed, no doubt. But the development we have in this country, the plentitude of goods, is due to it. It's a fantasy to believe in utopias. Yet the Left is still trying and it appears they're lurching towards violence to accomplish it. Let's take away the 2nd Amendment, collect the guns, and see how long we remain a Capitalist country.
dezguy
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Omg this x100
While not in the same vein as what is going on in the NFL, after the last NHL lockout, I made a conscious decision that I was done with the NHL. I was done investing my time and money in a league that seemingly locks out its players every 10 years. I was done with billionaires and millionaires fighting over money. I haven't watched a game or bought a product since. I've passed up free tickets because I refuse to support them.
If people are that outraged over the kneeling situation, it sure isn't showing in the stands.
dezguy
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Oh come on, Van. You're better than that.
There are plenty of countries who have gun control and are still capitalist countries. The government isn't going to take your gun, then rule your life because you don't have a means to defend yourself. Australia has some of the harshest gun control in the world and they seem to be getting along fine.
Australia is much more homogenized and has a much smaller population. Not a fair analogy.
He was saying all that? By kneeling? Ok. If you say so. Now...
That's what freedom of speech is. People don't have to like it. People can hate it.
When the government i.e. decides to shut it down, to silence dissension, that is a huge problem.
No, he's a symptom of what's going on in this country. And on campuses right now there's a concerted effort to shut down conservative voices. And while the players certainly have the right to protest, those who disagree have just as much right to push back. Two way street.
dezguy
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Ok then. When was the last time a g20 nations citizens were unable to put down a government trying to rule over them because the citizens didn't have guns?
Of course they do. But to call for them to be fired? By the most powerful man in the world? Going a bit far.
Why not? They're all calling for him to be fired.
Right there in your question. They're a G20 nation. Take away their ability to make a decent living and you'd have a revolt. And it's not cookie cutter across the board. What might happen in one nation with it's particular culture may never happen in another with it's own take on life. I've never owned a gun myself but have avid gun collectors in my family. It's their right under the Constitution and as long as that amendment is there no one has the power to take away that right. If enough people are able to get it voted out then it will happen. Not likely.
