NFL Boycott - Will FedEx Peak be easier...in current events?

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
The "mass revulsion" is exactly the point. There was none before Trump defined the protests as disrespectful.

And are you for real?! Kneeling, fisting (lol), recusing is inflammatory? What's left? Compliance? Stupid sheep.

Luckily in America, you don't have to watch the NFL. You don't have to go to games or buy their merchandise. You don't have to watch players brutally maim each other or make incredible plays. You don't have to watch wild upsets or unbelievable comebacks. You don't have to watch players "disrespect" the flag or the country or the armed services. Hell, you don't even have to listen to the president makes big deal out of something you didn't pay any attention to a year ago.

Luckily in America you can if you want to. But you don't have to.

If you were in a courtroom, and refused to stand when the Judge entered, you would be held in contempt of court.
The Judge requires respect, not for some inherent trait, but because of what his position symbolizes.
The Flag and National Anthem stand as symbols, as well.
Not following prescribed decorum, especially intentionally, is contempt.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
If you were in a courtroom, and refused to stand when the Judge entered, you would be held in contempt of court.
The Judge requires respect, not for some inherent trait, but because of what his position symbolizes.
The Flag and National Anthem stand as symbols, as well.
Not following prescribed decorum, especially intentionally, is contempt.
Contempt of the flag, the president, the congress, the judiciary is not a crime nor should it ever be.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
If you were in a courtroom, and refused to stand when the Judge entered, you would be held in contempt of court.
The Judge requires respect, not for some inherent trait, but because of what his position symbolizes.
The Flag and National Anthem stand as symbols, as well.
Not following prescribed decorum, especially intentionally, is contempt.
When Kaep started his protests he was sitting for the anthem, he met with former Green Beret and NFL player Nate Boyer. They decided together on kneeling. This is what Nate said.

[Kaepernick] reached out and we were able to sit down together for a couple of hours before the last preseason game last year. It was really cool to hear him just listen, too, and be very open-minded, too, and [say] “Look, I don’t want to hurt you, I don’t want to hurt your brothers and sisters.” I showed him text messages of friends of mine and some of them were saying I was a disgrace to the Green Berets ’cause I was even meeting with him. And some of them were like, “I’m with you man but it really hurts me to see that.”

So when I talked to them, it was mutual. Me, him, and Eric Reid [said] “I think maybe taking a knee would be a little more respectful. It’s still a demonstration. You’re still saying something but, people take a knee to pray. So for me it was a common ground, at least, to start from.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Contempt of the flag, the president, the congress, the judiciary is not a crime nor should it ever be.
I haven't heard a single person state that what the players are doing is criminal. That would be you, by inference.
It is, however, undeniable that what they are doing is contemptuous.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
I haven't heard a single person state that what the players are doing is criminal. That would be you, by inference.
It is, however, undeniable that what they are doing is contemptuous.
Nah, that's just you projecting. Kapernick has been very clear about why he's kneeling and it has nothing to do with contempt.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
I haven't heard a single person state that what the players are doing is criminal. That would be you, by inference.
It is, however, undeniable that what they are doing is contemptuous.
Ummm. You compared it to contempt of court which is a crime. TTKU with yourself.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
I believe Kaepernick was saying the U.S. is an unjust nation. If the U.S. was providing a substantial welfare package, then took that away from folks who had gotten used to it so therefore didn't prepare themselves to compete in the workplace(and that applies to all races), and thus life became a good deal harsher, then I can see why they're unhappy. And if the government was to suddenly run up the debt to unsustainable levels thus endangering their ability to receive anything, better push back and play on white guilt. Kaepernick is on record praising Fidel Castro. The many college professors who are influencing so many of tomorrow's leaders to rant and rave against conservatives are avowed Socialists if not Marxists. What better way to end the hardship of those who are used to handouts then to convert from Capitalism to Socialism? We'll all be equal then and no one will do without. Capitalism is flawed, no doubt. But the development we have in this country, the plentitude of goods, is due to it. It's a fantasy to believe in utopias. Yet the Left is still trying and it appears they're lurching towards violence to accomplish it. Let's take away the 2nd Amendment, collect the guns, and see how long we remain a Capitalist country.
VT You could have summed it all up in one sentence ......Take away everyone else's government benefits but don't take away mine.
 

dezguy

Well-Known Member
Right there in your question. They're a G20 nation. Take away their ability to make a decent living and you'd have a revolt. And it's not cookie cutter across the board. What might happen in one nation with it's particular culture may never happen in another with it's own take on life. I've never owned a gun myself but have avid gun collectors in my family. It's their right under the Constitution and as long as that amendment is there no one has the power to take away that right. If enough people are able to get it voted out then it will happen. Not likely.
My point is, civilized nations around the globe have strict gun control laws, yet governments of these nations have yet to trample over citizens rights.

I find it incredibly ridiculous when the argument "we need our guns to protect us from the government" is thrown about when the vast majority of countries who compare favourably to the U.S. don't have this worry despite not being armed.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
My point is, civilized nations around the globe have strict gun control laws, yet governments of these nations have yet to trample over citizens rights.

I find it incredibly ridiculous when the argument "we need our guns to protect us from the government" is thrown about when the vast majority of countries who compare favourably to the U.S. don't have this worry despite not being armed.
Tell that to the German citizenry, or the rest of Europe, when the Nazis took over. Tell that to the people who still live under the thumb of communist governments. No one is saying everything will go to hell willy nilly, only that people have the right to protect themselves, whether that's from the government or a local thug.
 
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