NFL Boycott - Will FedEx Peak be easier...in current events?

vantexan

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Contempt of the flag, the president, the congress, the judiciary is not a crime nor should it ever be.
Yet why is it that it's always those on the Left that burn the flag, trample on it, put it in urine, etc? They know the power of the symbolism and what message they are trying to convey. They've done the same with Christian symbols. It's about legally getting away with spitting on those they hold in contempt. It's no surprise that the NFL protest originated in San Francisco, the most liberal major city and home to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. And why if the California movement to secede ever succeeds there won't be too many in red States shedding tears.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Yet why is it that it's always those on the Left that burn the flag, trample on it, put it in urine, etc? They know the power of the symbolism and what message they are trying to convey. They've done the same with Christian symbols. It's about legally getting away with spitting on those they hold in contempt. It's no surprise that the NFL protest originated in San Francisco, the most liberal major city and home to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. And why if the California movement to secede ever succeeds there won't be too many in red States shedding tears.
You're making my point. Thank you.
 

bacha29

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You're making my point. Thank you.
Yet why is it that it's always those on the Left that burn the flag, trample on it, put it in urine, etc? They know the power of the symbolism and what message they are trying to convey. They've done the same with Christian symbols. It's about legally getting away with spitting on those they hold in contempt. It's no surprise that the NFL protest originated in San Francisco, the most liberal major city and home to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. And why if the California movement to secede ever succeeds there won't be too many in red States shedding tears.
FYI It was the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that rightfully ruled that Ground's so called contractors were in reality employees. That evil, communist pinko liberal court seems to get it right from time to time. If it had ruled the other way Xpress today would be drawing up plans to make Xpress employees contractors. As for California Texas and other states voting to secede from the union? Never happen. Why won't it? Think for a moment. It would have to create it's own currency that can be traded on global markets,fund it's own transportation, education, banking and healthcare system. Not to mention that seceding would likely mean a renouncement of citizenship which might result in a forfeiture of government benefits such as Social Security and Medicare. It is for reasons such as this is why Charlie Redneck and Billy Joe Sixpack are the only ones talking about seceding because they have no idea what the consequences would be.
 

vantexan

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FYI It was the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that rightfully ruled that Ground's so called contractors were in reality employees. That evil, communist pinko liberal court seems to get it right from time to time. If it had ruled the other way Xpress today would be drawing up plans to make Xpress employees contractors. As for California Texas and other states voting to secede from the union? Never happen. Why won't it? Think for a moment. It would have to create it's own currency that can be traded on global markets,fund it's own transportation, education, banking and healthcare system. Not to mention that seceding would likely mean a renouncement of citizenship which might result in a forfeiture of government benefits such as Social Security and Medicare. It is for reasons such as this is why Charlie Redneck and Billy Joe Sixpack are the only ones talking about seceding because they have no idea what the consequences would be.
I doubt the secession advocates in California are characterized as rednecks. And non-citizens who put in enough hours get Social Security. But going forward young adults without enough hours would be excluded. But it's all an academic exercise anyways. If the country ever devolves into a state where breaking up is possible, we'll have greater problems to deal with.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
More than Kaep. And I don't have a problem with more deciding to stand against a president that attacks their freedom of expression.
Freedom of expression doesn't exist when under contract, and that contract prohibits same. Check what Labor Laws and Courts say. Again, do it on your own time.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Freedom of expression doesn't exist when under contract, and that contract prohibits same. Check what Labor Laws and Courts say. Again, do it on your own time.
It is a contract between players and owners not subject to outside interpretation or enforcement. Has the NFL sued for compliance? Have they terminated contracts for non-compliance?
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Freedom of expression doesn't exist when under contract, and that contract prohibits same. Check what Labor Laws and Courts say. Again, do it on your own time.
Or to put it another way, why doesn't UPS file suit against Fedex for having what amounts to an "unconscionable" contract? Because even though that contract may give Fedex an unfair advantage, UPS is not a party in the contract and does not have standing to make such a claim.
 

MAKAVELI

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Freedom of expression doesn't exist when under contract, and that contract prohibits same. Check what Labor Laws and Courts say. Again, do it on your own time.
Nothing in their contract precludes them from this protesting. Whether you like it or not it's here to stay.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Or to put it another way, why doesn't UPS file suit against Fedex for having what amounts to an "unconscionable" contract? Because even though that contract may give Fedex an unfair advantage, UPS is not a party in the contract and does not have standing to make such a claim.
Challenge: Placard your trucks with "I Support Sitting/Kneeling For The National Anthem" and see how fast FedEx yanks you into their office. They would respond to public complaints, and enforce your contractual obligations.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Challenge: Placard your trucks with "I Support Sitting/Kneeling For The National Anthem" and see how fast FedEx yanks you into their office. They would respond to public complaints, and enforce your contractual obligations.
Actually I can't do that because it's written into the contract.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Yet why is it that it's always those on the Left that burn the flag, trample on it, put it in urine, etc? They know the power of the symbolism and what message they are trying to convey. They've done the same with Christian symbols. It's about legally getting away with spitting on those they hold in contempt. It's no surprise that the NFL protest originated in San Francisco, the most liberal major city and home to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. And why if the California movement to secede ever succeeds there won't be too many in red States shedding tears.
So you admit the protests are legal but your side doesn't like them and on that basis alone, they should have to stop?
 

bbsam

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Staff member
Why. Seriously....,,,,,,
, there can be a better way to "protest" than to insult veterans. A lady x marine is so disgusted by it she hates NFL now. Use to be a big fan.
The veterans who are offended choose to be. Somehow a meaning has been unfairly attached that was never intended and that came straight from the president's bully pulpit.

It's America. The lady x marine has every right to never watch again.
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
Why. Seriously....,,,,,,
, there can be a better way to "protest" than to insult veterans. A lady x marine is so disgusted by it she hates NFL now. Use to be a big fan.
It has nothing to do with insulting veterans. That is a Drumpf narrative. And BTW he has said nothing about the 4 green berets that were killed in Niger. So much for honoring our military......
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Actually I can't do that because it's written into the contract.
But doesn't that violate your First Amendment rights? Seriously, you should SUE and take this OUTRAGE to the court of public opinion.

Boycott FedEx Ground!!

Wait.

That would be self-defeating, wouldn't it???

Damn!
 
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