NFL Boycott - Will FedEx Peak be easier...in current events?

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I don't completely disagree. But the money is there. This is where we move from identity politics to economics.
You can't run the debt up to 20 trillion, put inhibitors on business that hurt profits, and expect the government to pay for programs. It's not there and won't be until we have an environment where business can flourish and gov't revenue increases because of it.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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You can't run the debt up to 20 trillion, put inhibitors on business that hurt profits, and expect the government to pay for programs. It's not there and won't be until we have an environment where business can flourish and gov't revenue increases because of it.

...which is why we need a "tax holiday" to encourage businesses to bring back part or all of their money currently being held overseas at a greatly reduced tax rate...
 

BakerMayfield2018

Fight the power.
Is there a difference between joking and being a joke?
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bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
You can't run the debt up to 20 trillion, put inhibitors on business that hurt profits, and expect the government to pay for programs. It's not there and won't be until we have an environment where business can flourish and gov't revenue increases because of it.
You can't run the debt up to 20 trillion, have companies making record profits, cry about a 37% corporate tax (that no corporation actually pays), cut taxes and exprect the debt not to go through the roof and only be concerned about said debt when the democrats are in power again.

In the simplest terms, if income (taxes) do not meet (and with paying off interest and principal, exceed) expenditures, then cutting taxes makes no sense whatsoever. The idea that cutting taxes miraculously creates growth that pays for itself and eliminates debt is a farce.
 

Future

Victory Ride
You can't run the debt up to 20 trillion, have companies making record profits, cry about a 37% corporate tax (that no corporation actually pays), cut taxes and exprect the debt not to go through the roof and only be concerned about said debt when the democrats are in power again.

In the simplest terms, if income (taxes) do not meet (and with paying off interest and principal, exceed) expenditures, then cutting taxes makes no sense whatsoever. The idea that cutting taxes miraculously creates growth that pays for itself and eliminates debt is a farce.
Yawn
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
You can't run the debt up to 20 trillion, have companies making record profits, cry about a 37% corporate tax (that no corporation actually pays), cut taxes and exprect the debt not to go through the roof and only be concerned about said debt when the democrats are in power again.

In the simplest terms, if income (taxes) do not meet (and with paying off interest and principal, exceed) expenditures, then cutting taxes makes no sense whatsoever. The idea that cutting taxes miraculously creates growth that pays for itself and eliminates debt is a farce.
If you cut tax rates, and eliminate deductions not available to all businesses, at the same time, you get a fairer system and a level playing field.
Property taxes are manipulated like that all the time.
Eliminate ALL deductions and simplify the tax rate. Make everyone pay something.
Sound familiar? Did Trump already propose that?
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
If you cut tax rates, and eliminate deductions not available to all businesses, at the same time, you get a fairer system and a level playing field.
Property taxes are manipulated like that all the time.
Eliminate ALL deductions and simplify the tax rate. Make everyone pay something.
Sound familiar? Did Trump already propose that?
That's not going to happen. Listen to what the business community talks about. They talk about 37% tax rate and nothing about their effective tax rate after deductions.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
If you cut tax rates, and eliminate deductions not available to all businesses, at the same time, you get a fairer system and a level playing field.
Property taxes are manipulated like that all the time.
Eliminate ALL deductions and simplify the tax rate. Make everyone pay something.
Sound familiar? Did Trump already propose that?
You can't run the debt up to 20 trillion, have companies making record profits, cry about a 37% corporate tax (that no corporation actually pays), cut taxes and exprect the debt not to go through the roof and only be concerned about said debt when the democrats are in power again.

In the simplest terms, if income (taxes) do not meet (and with paying off interest and principal, exceed) expenditures, then cutting taxes makes no sense whatsoever. The idea that cutting taxes miraculously creates growth that pays for itself and eliminates debt is a farce.

What about the millions of small businesses struggling? You see some major corporations doing very well and think the country is flowing with money. And exactly what are we arguing here? That able bodied people should stay home and collect welfare? And you're kidding yourself into thinking we can keep running up the debt and not have it crash at some point. Things collapse under their own weight all the time. The government is no different. And that'll make 2008 look reasonable.
 
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