Orlando night club shooting

[BrownArmy]

What are the details about the armed security guard who was at Pulse on the night of the shootings?

Heard it on the radio, not sure if it's true or not.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I thought he was an off duty Orlando police officer.

 

[BrownArmy]

I thought he was an off duty Orlando police officer.

You might be correct.

I've read differing accounts.

 

[toonertoo]

Good, good

 

[BrownArmy]

Good, good

That's random.

 

[BrownArmy]

Why did the Pulse club crowd not incapacitate the gunman?

Quora's highlighted answers to questions change depending on multiple factors - I'm linking to 'Joe Buettner's answer, which starts like this:


"We don’t have an exact timeline of the Orlando Nightclub Shootings yet.

I can tell you that there is no way anyone from the club’s crowd could have incapacitated the shooter in the first moments of the attack; it doesn’t matter if anyone in the crowd was armed (which somebody was). A lot of the reasons this particular attack was the worst mass shooting in American history revolve around the venue; nightclubs are absurdly dangerous when anything goes wrong. I’ll qualify those opinions later..."

Actually, most of the other answers in this Quora thread are interesting, have at it.

 

[Catatonic]

Yet...

'Well regulated'...

Are y'all saying there should be no regulations on the second amendment?

I don't think that is what Madison mean when he and the other framers of the Bill Of Rights wrote them.

The Second Amendment: The Framers' Intentions

The words "well regulated" had a far different meaning at the time the Second Amendment was drafted. In the context of the Constitution's provisions for Congressional power over certain aspects of the militia, and in the context of the Framers' definition of "militia," government regulation was not the intended meaning. Rather, the term meant only what it says, that the necessary militia be well regulated, but not by the national government.

One can argue that the Civil War made States rights dead and so the National government "should" assume those rights.

 

[Babagounj]

What civil war ?

 

[BrownArmy]

I don't think that is what Madison mean when he and the other framers of the Bill Of Rights wrote them.

The Second Amendment: The Framers' Intentions

The words "well regulated" had a far different meaning at the time the Second Amendment was drafted. In the context of the Constitution's provisions for Congressional power over certain aspects of the militia, and in the context of the Framers' definition of "militia," government regulation was not the intended meaning. Rather, the term meant only what it says, that the necessary militia be well regulated, but not by the national government.

One can argue that the Civil War made States rights dead and so the National government "should" assume those rights.

OK, I'm game.

Socratic method, I'll start:

In 2016, what is your definition of 'militia'?

 

[Babagounj]

OK, I'm game.

Socratic method, I'll start:

In 2016, what is your definition of 'militia'?

Same as it always has....armed citizens coming together to defend their lands against a common enemy.

 

[realbrown1]

Same as it always has....armed citizens coming together to defend their lands against a common enemy.

They will pick at ANYTHING to try and tear the 2nd down.

friend"ing anti-gun nuts.

 

[BrownArmy]

Same as it always has....armed citizens coming together to defend their lands against a common enemy.

I wasn't asking you.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Good, good

That's random.

She tends to add little to whatever conversation she takes part in.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Same as it always has....armed citizens coming together to defend their lands against a common enemy.

In today's world what or who would be our common enemy?

 

[bottomups]

What civil war ?

The one which the South lost.

 

[tourists24]

In today's world what or who would be our common enemy?

Islamic terrorism?

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

The one which the South lost.

True. But The South would definitely stomp that ass the second time around.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

True. But The South would definitely stomp that ass the second time around.

That's true. The North has grown complacent with their indoor plumbing and marrying outside of the family.

 

[bottomups]

True. But The South would definitely stomp that ass the second time around.

Not a chance. Southerners move way to slow. Easy targets.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

That's true. The North has grown complacent with their indoor plumbing and marrying outside of the family.

Not so. Remember the Appalachians extend well into the north.

Not a chance. Southerners move way to slow. Easy targets.

Southerners don't need to move fast. We shoot well and most of the north is either unarmed or inadequately armed.