Orlando night club shooting

[realbrown1]

This is a terrible example and there are very few practical examples that you would need a gun to defend yourself in a situation where you wouldn't already be dead before drawing said gun and firing or being able to flee. You sure as hell don't need a handgun with more than 8 bullets in a clip to defend yourself.

I've secured my hone to a degree that I believe someone or someone's would have to make enough noise just breaking in, that I would have time to arm myself.

So I wouldn't be dead, and I would need protection.

Called 911 for a report of youths vandalizing property in my neighborhood, and it took police over 2 hours to respond.

They apologized for taking so long, you see they were all involved in a long police chase earlier.

And I am a good shot, but what if there are 3 or more of them?

In my area, there are usually more of them.

So you can take what you think we NEED, and bend over and shove it.

You rely on others for your protection if you want to, but leave me our of it.

 

[Catatonic]

OK, I'm game.

Socratic method, I'll start:

In 2016, what is your definition of 'militia'?

I don't have one ... but it seems to refer to private citizens with arms joining together to protect themselves and others from outside and internal forces intent on depriving others of their individual rights.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Southerners don't need to move fast. We shoot well and most of the north is either unarmed or inadequately armed.

We all have smartphones.

 

[Babagounj]

I wasn't asking you.

But everyone had left .

 

[Babagounj]

In today's world what or who would be our common enemy?

elected liberals

 

[Babagounj]

We all have smartphones.

speak for yourself.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

speak for yourself.

I would never dare even think to speak on your behalf.

 

[Babagounj]

One EMP discharge and this country becomes a zombie world .
People will be looking down at their palms and go into a total emotional breakdown .
We would have to go back to just reading the local newspaper for info .

 

[Sportello]

What part are you saying I don't want?

Religion?

Islam is a cult.

A political cult bent on world domination by any means possible.

And as a cult bent on the over-throw of the United States government, it can be banned.

So what part of the Constitution am I not following?

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

 

[Babagounj]

We have read their playbook .

 

[trickpony1]

We would have to go back to just reading the local newspaper for info .

...if you dare venture out of your home to walk to a 7-11 that is closed to buy a paper.

Marauding bands of looters will make you disappear.

 

[Babagounj]

...if you dare venture out of your home to walk to a 7-11 that is closed to buy a paper.

Marauding bands of looters will make you disappear.

The nearest 7-11 is miles away in another town .
For a while anyone with a non fuel injected vehicle , a bike or a horse will be the messages carriers .

 

[oldngray]

The nearest 7-11 is miles away in another town .
For a while anyone with a non fuel injected vehicle , a bike or a horse will be the messages carriers .

Get a diesel.

 

[realbrown1]

One EMP discharge and this country becomes a zombie world .
People will be looking down at their palms and go into a total emotional breakdown .
We would have to go back to just reading the local newspaper for info .

An EMP will knock out newspapers too.

 

[trickpony1]

For a while anyone with a non fuel injected vehicle

I'm not too sure about that.
It's my understanding an EMP will "fry" anything electrical.

 

[realbrown1]

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

I read the Quran.

You?

 

[oldngray]

I'm not too sure about that.
It's my understanding an EMP will "fry" anything electrical.

Old diesel pickups (1970's vintage or older) without any electronics would be most likely to run.

 

[bottomups]

What part are you saying I don't want?

Religion?

Islam is a cult.

A political cult bent on world domination by any means possible.

And as a cult bent on the over-throw of the United States government, it can be banned.

So what part of the Constitution am I not following?

All religions are cults.
Europeans came here and overthrew all Native American "governments" and religions. Maybe as Islam takes over here we will know what it felt like.

 

[tourists24]

All religions are cults.
Europeans came here and overthrew all Native American "governments" and religions. Maybe as Islam takes over here we will know what it felt like.

That'll teach that ole horrible America

 

[MrFedEx]

All religions are cults.
Europeans came here and overthrew all Native American "governments" and religions. Maybe as Islam takes over here we will know what it felt like.

It depends. The late, great Walter Martin used to have a radio program which I listened to regularly. I'm not religious, but I liked him because he was common sense, a true Biblical scholar, and quite rational. No appeals for money, just information.

He would disagree with you that all religions are cults (I probably wouldn't), and only classified a handful of mainstream US religions as cults, among them the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Seventh Day Adventists.

If you think Islam is effed-up, study up a bit on your Mormons. The planet Kolob, aliens who travel back and forth to Earth, your own planet when you die etc. Some weird to be sure.