preloader happy to play along with orion changes.. but..

[AllOnTheHorses]

Hey all, so I've loaded for 7 years.. starting to get heat from Supes about loading for Orion as it starts creeping into our center. I really try to make my drivers happy.. such as, asking for feedback.. custom loading the addresses that go to one PAL or other big bulk stops, hiding and storing totes, tapeguns for them, etc etc.. so I do care. They seem happy. but I suppose my old system of putting higher numbers behind lower numbered (lip-loaded) boxes is not going to fly (I was told today). Two of my trucks are routinely packed floor to ceiling front to back. I feel like I am going to be shafting my drivers to make Preload supes happy.
I wish PPH wasn't the only measure for us.. maybe driver time.. I know that by custom loading I save my drivers time sorting multi-address PALs.
So.. any tips to to a preloader to make the Orion load work? My supe is a passive aggressive joik.. so I am curious what you all think.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Orion is just starting in my building. As I'm also a loader on the 7 year plan....do what your drivers want....and custom load how you usually load. Unless your sups really start hounding your ass about it...then ultimately...you work as directed.

 

[Brownslave688]

Orion is just starting in my building. As I'm also a loader on the 7 year plan....do what your drivers want....and custom load how you usually load. Unless your sups really start hounding your ass about it...then ultimately...you work as directed.

I disagree. Load it by PAL. Who cares what the drivers want (I'm a driver). Rule #1 at ups is cover your ass. Work as directed and you'll have no problems. Weather they like it or not a custom load is not in any drivers best intrest once Orion hits.

The best thing you can do is take your time and load everything perfectly in order.

 

[BUCN85]

Hey all, so I've loaded for 7 years.. starting to get heat from Supes about loading for Orion as it starts creeping into our center. I really try to make my drivers happy.. such as, asking for feedback.. custom loading the addresses that go to one PAL or other big bulk stops, hiding and storing totes, tapeguns for them, etc etc.. so I do care. They seem happy. but I suppose my old system of putting higher numbers behind lower numbered (lip-loaded) boxes is not going to fly (I was told today). Two of my trucks are routinely packed floor to ceiling front to back. I feel like I am going to be shafting my drivers to make Preload supes happy.
I wish PPH wasn't the only measure for us.. maybe driver time.. I know that by custom loading I save my drivers time sorting multi-address PALs.
So.. any tips to to a preloader to make the Orion load work? My supe is a passive aggressive joik.. so I am
curious what you all think.

I am a loader/cover driver and I was actually told just yesterday to start
loading the way you said. Larger # behind smaller # this is now being
called " shoebox " loading

 

[bleedinbrown58]

I've been doing that for awhile...before orion when the shelves are particularly heavy....I didn't know it had a name though...lol

 

[raceanoncr]

My opinion? Remember, I said, MY opinion! Do as they say. You've been here 7 years, you've heard the "Work as directed" mantra many times. NOT working as directed is ONE of the quickest ways to get escorted out the building. BUT....

Have a little one-on-one with your driver(s). Tell em what's going on. If you've been this conscientious in the past (which is sounds you are) they will understand that you've got a job to do, not to please them but to please the package gods. Just tell them you have no choice, you HAVE to load it the companies way or else. You don't think THEY haven't been told the same thing? "Run this area by ORION or else". In most cases, they will understand. Not like it but they will understand.

My local UPS guy was just here. This town's been on it for this past year. Just today, he said he's scheduled for about 56 miles daily. Yesterday he went 67 and they said he was 100%. He said he'd love to be home sooner if he ran it right but they want it this way so that's what he's gonna do.

So, is it working? Here, on this route, NO! But what are you gonna do? Rebel and say "No way". If so, I hope you have another job lined up.

In all my years at UPS (well, I was there about 6 months), I ALWAYS "Worked as Directed", whether it be package car, feeders or whatever I was bumped into. Yes, I got talked to. Yes, I got threatened. Yes, I was harassed. But nothing could ever transpire. Why? Because they didn't have a leg to stand on. When I asked them to observe me then show me the proper way, they fell apart because it was the same thing they were doing. Me? Clear conscience to the end.

Again, you'll hear many stories here about rebellion and compromise but MY advice is just to "Work as directed".

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Oh you worked here for 6 months? That's great....tell me more about how to do my job!

 

[bleedinbrown58]

I've gotten some BS from management about custom loads every now and then....but in almost 8 years, I've never gotten a warning letter for not loading by PAL. And not WAD will not get you walked out of a building, without a verbal warning...a letter, suspension...etc. As far as I know anyway....I've never gotten further than a warning letter..or 5..lol.

 

[BUCN85]

One thing that irritates me regarding custom loads is the driver will tell the person who sets up the truck to for ex. Put best buy RDR. Lowes RDL. Game stop FL1 etc etc. and the person refuses to set the truck up this way. I'll never get it. If a stop is your first stop and unloaded on a dock out the back. Why is it being put FL2!!!

We are handed sheets everyday for how much of what is going where. They are differnt everyday. Great my paper shows no pieces on FL3. Yet there's a 40 piece bulk stop in the 3000's. Dios mios

 

[westsideworma]

sometimes working as directed can be a lot of fun!

one car I used to load had its Monday plan screwed up but was ok every other day. On Mondays the bulk stops would get PALed to shelves but since I'd loaded the car before PAS and after I was trained to look at the shipping label first out of habit so I caught it and put them where they belong (FL4, FL3 RDR, RDL etc). Well one Monday, an IE supervisor (no longer with the company) went in said vehicle and proceeded to give me an earful about why I need to load by the PAL (after he had moved them all to where the PAL said they should go). I explained why I was doing it and he told me he didn't care, load by the PAL. So I did just that. He later came back to a bunch of house stops on the floor and a pissed off driver as a result of me working as directed. My driver asked me who put me up to this as he knew I'd never come up with something like this (too much common sense) and I didn't hesitate to tell him. The supervisor never bothered me again after.

 

[mixyo]

If a stop is your first stop and unloaded on a dock out the back. Why is it being put FL2!!!

Is it an issue of bad PAL'ing or a bad loader?

Nearly half the packages/stops on the two trucks I load are PAL'd incorrectly, either to the wrong place inside the truck or to the wrong truck entirely. I've pretty much given up trying to have them corrected. Last week I took one to the clerk and explained where it goes, saw her change the PAL info in the computer system, and it's still being PAL'd wrong!

 

[westsideworma]

Is it an issue of bad PAL'ing or a bad loader?

Nearly half the packages/stops on the two trucks I load are PAL'd incorrectly, either to the wrong place inside the truck or to the wrong truck entirely. I've pretty much given up trying to have them corrected. Last week I took one to the clerk and explained where it goes, saw her change the PAL info in the computer system, and it's still being PAL'd wrong!

probably didn't change it in all the plans (some centers have many dispatch plans), or if it was only DCAPed it only changes that particular package...really efficient and intuitive isn't it?

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Is it an issue of bad PAL'ing or a bad loader?

Nearly half the packages/stops on the two trucks I load are PAL'd incorrectly, either to the wrong place inside the truck or to the wrong truck entirely. I've pretty much given up trying to have them corrected. Last week I took one to the clerk and explained where it goes, saw her change the PAL info in the computer system, and it's still being PAL'd wrong!

Lemme guess...you load mall routes??

 

[mixyo]

Lemme guess...you load mall routes??

yes indeedy

 

[bleedinbrown58]

yes indeedy

Yep....dispatch for mall routes is forever messed up.

 

[Anonymous 11]

Hey all, so I've loaded for 7 years.. starting to get heat from Supes about loading for Orion as it starts creeping into our center. I really try to make my drivers happy.. such as, asking for feedback.. custom loading the addresses that go to one PAL or other big bulk stops, hiding and storing totes, tapeguns for them, etc etc.. so I do care. They seem happy. but I suppose my old system of putting higher numbers behind lower numbered (lip-loaded) boxes is not going to fly (I was told today). Two of my trucks are routinely packed floor to ceiling front to back. I feel like I am going to be shafting my drivers to make Preload supes happy.
I wish PPH wasn't the only measure for us.. maybe driver time.. I know that by custom loading I save my drivers time sorting multi-address PALs.
So.. any tips to to a preloader to make the Orion load work? My supe is a passive aggressive joik.. so I am curious what you all think.

Work by ups's methods and let your driver work by ups's methods. This will be better for you in the long run.

 

[mixyo]

Yep....dispatch for mall routes is forever messed up.

Don't I know it!

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Don't I know it!

Well then stop expecting the clerk to fix it...lol. There's too many dispatch plans....it'll still get messed up.

 

[AllOnTheHorses]

Thanks for all of the replies.. yeah I'll do what they (supes) ask of course.. my name's not on the building.
My daily PAL horror story is a research facility that recently divided into three different divisions.. has 5 addresses.. all end up on the same PAL.. huge bulk stop.. and since the facility split, some now need to go to another truck that handles the scientific equipment. It's bad.

 

[BUCN85]

Lemme guess...you load mall routes??

As do I. 2 trucks. Only I know what goes where. Dispatch still screws up pals.