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floridays

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That's not true. States run their own elections. Federal support with stipulations doesn't need anything but an act of Congress. Similar to speed limits and drinking age.
It is precisely true.

State elections, yes they do, individually.

Presidential elections are provided for in Article II Section 1. of the Constitution, and "Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct..."

It is the State Legislatures power to direct all law as to how electors will be appointed.

You may have a problem understanding exactly what was required to get State delegates to the Constitution to ratify our Constitution.

The power to run elections, Constitutionally resides in the States legislatures.

The Constitution would have to be amended.

Granted Constitutional rights can not be wiped away by any vote of Congress.
 

zimbomb

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It is precisely true.

State elections, yes they do, individually.

Presidential elections are provided for in Article II Section 1. of the Constitution, and "Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct..."

It is the State Legislatures power to direct all law as to how electors will be appointed.

You may have a problem understanding exactly what was required to get State delegates to the Constitution to ratify our Constitution.

The power to run elections, Constitutionally resides in the States legislatures.

The Constitution would have to be amended.

Granted Constitutional rights can not be wiped away by any vote of Congress.
Using federal government provided funding for elections is voluntary. Compliance and regulations through monetary means doesn't effect a state's rights. Federal certification for voting machines is also voluntary, but could easily be tied to federal funding.
 

floridays

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Using federal government provided funding for elections is voluntary.
The federal government has no money until it is taken from states citizens, no money is given to any government voluntarily, test what I say, take away the criminal penalties then count the coffers.
 

zimbomb

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The federal government has no money until it is taken from states citizens, no money is given to any government voluntarily, test what I say, take away the criminal penalties then count the coffers.
Acceptance of federal funding is voluntary, taxation with representation, no money is taken for the federal government, it's given...
 

floridays

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Compliance and regulations through monetary means doesn't effect a state's rights.
Compliance and regulation to retain a right is a sanction.
A claim puts a restriction on a right, and it is no longer a right.

The Constitution was only ratified after rights were granted to states, no rights, no ratification, no ratification, no union, no union, no United States, no United States no Federal election.

You seem to have no regard or the Constitution, the document that restrains tyranny, that restrains democracy.

Democracy allows the rule of the majority over the rule of law. This is exactly what you offer.
 

floridays

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Acceptance of federal funding is voluntary, taxation with representation, no money is taken for the federal government, it's given...
Under your scenario, if a state does not comply with your new edict, and no funding is accepted, will their electors for a Presidential election be accepted?
 

zimbomb

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How many states do you think would comply then?
How would your "meaningful, long lasting" solution be implemented,
Any state that wants federal money to improve their voting system's, take it or leave it. Instead of the blanket hand outs that have be given the past 2 decades, strong standards for equipment/software are put in place. This isn't a new issue and solution have been drafted in the past. DARPA has laid the groundwork and the voting machine manufacturers can use it. Election security in the digital age needs to be bulletproof on the hardware and software front. State, local government and election workers need to be the verification of the system. Open source, paper backup are key alongside real flesh and blood people. It just has the problem of admission = questions of past results...
 

floridays

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Any state that wants federal money to improve their voting system's, take it or leave it.
So you offer no "meaningful, long lasting solution."

I'm curious, you propose needing new laws, exactly why weren't laws, already passed by Legislatures, followed in some states within the past three months? Why are new laws needed if lawless judges and election officials do not follow existing law?
 

UPSER1987

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Lower unemployment for all, lower taxes, better trade deals, support for criminal justice reform and traditionally black colleges, high stock markets (everyone can participate it’s not a rich only thing). Yes he is a bastard all right.

And do NOT call me a racist, what a tired tactic of the left. I find that term most insulting, as a sports official on the field racist comments out of players got them an early check out from the game. My sons never learned racism from me. It’s so disingenuous to just lump everyone to the right of center as a racist. It’s disgusting for you to say that.
If you support Trump, you’re a racist. Plain and simple. And yes, it is disgusting. You can’t have it both ways- you either openly support it or you’re complicit in your silence. Sorry bud.
 

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