If they don't vote then they are disenfranchised. Voting matters.
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Thebrownblob
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If they don’t vote because they think someone’s going to pull lever and change their vote what are they?
Next Day Err
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There’s nothing wrong with our election system. Votes are counted correctly. 99.999999% fraud free. What concerns me is the psychological operation our enemies are undertaking to get their preferred outcome: chaos and Trump, the pro-authoritarian president.
Will be standing by to hear Democrats say that if Trump wins in November.
Thebrownblob
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Next Day Err
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If there’s no rat
ery like the fake electors plot, etc, then if Trump wins, he wins. If authoritarianism is what this country wants then so be it. I’ll mourn for my country but we will live to fight another day.If there’s no rat
We'll see.
Opinion | Trump's election denial is the Second Big Lie
Millions of GOP voters are primed to distrust the midterm election results. But Democrats need to be honest about the consequences of their actions after the 2016 election.
www.nbcnews.com
November 7, 2022
"Trump’s mendacity is arguably the Second Big Lie. Four years earlier, the Hillary Clintoncampaign and leading Democrats refused to acknowledge the outcome of the 2016 election, by claiming Donald Trump was not a legitimate president. These actions, while certainly not as dramatic or as immediately damaging as the events leading to Jan. 6 (and today), helped bring us to our current situation.
“He lost the election and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf,” ex-President Jimmy Carter said in 2019, continuing to deny Trump’s victory three years after the election.
“He knows he’s an illegitimate president,” said Clinton, also three years later. She repeated this sentiment in 2020, telling The Atlantic the election “was not on the level,” and again when she called Trump’s win illegitimate. She piled on to this by saying, “You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,” clearly referring to how she saw her 2016 campaign."
Next Day Err
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She got out ahead of her skis. There’s a difference between saying something like that a time or two and spending FOUR YEARS crying daily about a demonstrably false lie and having such disrespect for your own country that you would launch a mob of of your odiferous voters to ransack the Capitol to stop Congress from doing their jobs to certify an election you definitely lost fair and square.We'll see.
Opinion | Trump's election denial is the Second Big Lie
Millions of GOP voters are primed to distrust the midterm election results. But Democrats need to be honest about the consequences of their actions after the 2016 election.
November 7, 2022
"Trump’s mendacity is arguably the Second Big Lie. Four years earlier, the Hillary Clintoncampaign and leading Democrats refused to acknowledge the outcome of the 2016 election, by claiming Donald Trump was not a legitimate president. These actions, while certainly not as dramatic or as immediately damaging as the events leading to Jan. 6 (and today), helped bring us to our current situation.
“He lost the election and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf,” ex-President Jimmy Carter said in 2019, continuing to deny Trump’s victory three years after the election.
“He knows he’s an illegitimate president,” said Clinton, also three years later. She repeated this sentiment in 2020, telling The Atlantic the election “was not on the level,” and again when she called Trump’s win illegitimate. She piled on to this by saying, “You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,” clearly referring to how she saw her 2016 campaign."
We'll see.
Opinion | Trump's election denial is the Second Big Lie
Millions of GOP voters are primed to distrust the midterm election results. But Democrats need to be honest about the consequences of their actions after the 2016 election.
November 7, 2022
"Trump’s mendacity is arguably the Second Big Lie. Four years earlier, the Hillary Clintoncampaign and leading Democrats refused to acknowledge the outcome of the 2016 election, by claiming Donald Trump was not a legitimate president. These actions, while certainly not as dramatic or as immediately damaging as the events leading to Jan. 6 (and today), helped bring us to our current situation.
“He lost the election and he was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf,” ex-President Jimmy Carter said in 2019, continuing to deny Trump’s victory three years after the election.
“He knows he’s an illegitimate president,” said Clinton, also three years later. She repeated this sentiment in 2020, telling The Atlantic the election “was not on the level,” and again when she called Trump’s win illegitimate. She piled on to this by saying, “You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,” clearly referring to how she saw her 2016 campaign."
October 25, 2022
"Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned against “right-wing extremists,” saying they are threatening to steal the 2024 presidential election.
Darmark7
Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
Next Day Err
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They are. They still haven’t been held accountable for trying to steal 2020.
Let me say this slowly for everyone here.
There isn’t a problem with the votes. Or the voting. The elections are held fairly and there’s vanishingly small amounts of fraud.
The problem lies in the lies. The Russian active measures to attack our elections by running psyops on our social media to tear us apart from verified truth.
The problem lies in the rat
ery of the aftermath of elections. The fake electors plot, the attempt to have your own vice president delay certification of the election.Undocumented immigrants aren’t voting. They don’t vote. They haven’t been voting. They won’t vote.
But the far-right is trying their best to lie about the elections themselves in order to hopefully overturn the results.
They are. They still haven’t been held accountable for trying to steal 2020.
Let me say this slowly for everyone here.
There isn’t a problem with the votes. Or the voting. The elections are held fairly and there’s vanishingly small amounts of fraud.
The problem lies in the lies. The Russian active measures to attack our elections by running psyops on our social media to tear us apart from verified truth.
The problem lies in the rat
Undocumented immigrants aren’t voting. They don’t vote. They haven’t been voting. They won’t vote.
But the far-right is trying their best to lie about the elections themselves in order to hopefully overturn the results.
So you actually are going to believe the 2024 presidential election was stolen if Trump wins?
Next Day Err
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If Trump gets the most electors then he wins. If Biden wins 270+ then Biden wins.
If Biden wins 270+ we all know Trump is going to go for broke to try his best to gum up the process of certification. This is where the attempted theft will be. He will cry and cry and cry about fraud that doesn’t exist. This is where the stealing could happen.
This sounds like some people around here.
Paranoid.
So if Trump gets 270+ we'll probably be hearing from Hillary about how the election was stolen but we won't be hearing it from you. We shall see.
Trump won't be president and Kamala Harris is the VP doing the certifying. Let's see if Biden gets 270+ before we predict an apocalypse.
Next Day Err
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If he wins, he wins. I hope he doesn’t but he could win.So if Trump gets 270+ we'll probably be hearing from Hillary about how the election was stolen but we won't be hearing it from you. We shall see.
Excellent. Bookmarked for November. You could very well be a rare leftist voice of reason in a sea of leftist discontent. When Hillary appears on TV to say the election was stolen you'll say "No, Hillary, he got to 270."
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